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Interviews from the farm 76: Spiritual Exchange-Rates and Conversion

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:36:20 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

08 March 2010

So ‘Spiritual’ ‘Exchange-Rates’: In the ‘Money-System’ you have a ‘fascinating’ ‘Accepted’ ‘Way’-of ‘Value’ - It’s called the ‘Exchange-Rate’. This ‘Value’ gives-to Different-‘Countries’ – their ‘People’, their ‘Economies’ – Certain ‘Values.’ These ‘Values’ then Determine the ‘Way’ ‘Goods’ will be ‘Exchanged’ and for What-‘Value’ and it’s quite ‘Interesting’ that Obviously, Africa –which is ‘Extensive’- ‘Resources’ will ‘Run’ on a Very ‘Weak’ ‘Exchange-Rate’, and when you ‘Convert’ the ‘African-Money’ to for instance the ‘United States-Money’ = People in the United States get an Extensive-‘Advantage’ as much as ‘ten-times’ More-‘Value’ for the ‘Resource’, than the ‘Value’ the Person will ‘get’ in their ‘Local-Economy’.

Obviously the ‘Way’ that it ‘works’ is that you-have ‘those’ that is the ‘Elite’ in Every-‘Country’, and they are the Ones that ‘Benefit’ from this ‘Exchange-Rate’ because, they are the Ones [who] ‘placed’ in the ‘Head’-of ‘Corporations’ – and, that are ‘placed’ in the ‘Head’-of ‘Resource-Management’.

Where ‘else’ do you have this ‘Conversion’-thing? You have-it in ‘Religion’ –‘Everyone’ is always trying-to ‘Convert’ others and always ‘Believe’ that their ‘Religion’ holds more-‘Value’- And this ‘Value’ is something that’s ‘Untouchable’ and ‘Unseen’ and that is ‘Linked’-to a ‘Spiritual -Value’ that is ‘Only going-to Come-to ‘Fruition’’ ‘After-Death’.

Fascinating, and People will ‘Convert’ their-‘Beliefs’ –that means ‘Change’ their-‘Beliefs’ –‘dependent’-on which-one of their ‘Conversion-Rates’, these ‘Belief-Systems’ or ‘Religions’, will give them Better-‘Security’- Just like the ‘Money-System’ – People will put their ‘Money’ in the ‘Currency’ that gives-them a Better-‘Security’ a ‘Better-Return’.

So is ‘Religion’ and ‘Spirituality’ ‘Measured’ as well: ‘What’ will ‘Give’-one a ‘Better-Return’? and there, One look-at the ‘Promising’-Part – I mean the ‘Promissory-Notes’, the ‘Promises’-‘Made’- and have a-‘look’ at ‘How’ Many-‘Promises’ there are ‘Both’ in the ‘Money-System’ made-by ‘Governments’ and ‘Reserve Banks’ in terms-of the ‘Governments’ ‘Promise’ the: ‘Future’ ‘Labor-Income’ of the ‘Economy’ and the ‘Production-Income’ of the ‘Economy’ against ‘Borrowings’ to ‘Cover’-their ‘Budgets’ that’s ‘Insufficient’ to ‘Support’ its ‘People’- The End: ‘Vast’ Amounts-of ‘Money’ that should’ve ‘gone’-to the ‘People’, goes-to ‘Interest’ to the ‘Banks’.

In ‘Spirituality’ you-have –and I mean ‘All-Religions’: ‘Christianity’, ‘Islam’, ‘New-Age’- they ‘All’ have a ‘Similar’ ‘Conversion-Rate’ – It all ‘Depends’-on ‘What’ the ‘Believer’ is ‘Satisfied’-with – If they’re Not ‘Satisfied’-with ‘something’ they’ll ‘look’ for a Better-‘Promise’, and then they will ‘Believe’ the ‘Promise’- And, the ‘Belief’ is the ‘Faith’ that they put-in the ‘System’ that It-‘Will’ ‘Provide’-them with the ‘Promise’ that was made –just like a ‘Bank-Note’ which is based-on a ‘Belief’ and a ‘Promise’-to ‘Pay’ the ‘Bearer’ at ‘Presentation’ of a ‘Piece-of-Paper’- In ‘Religion’ you Don’t even-‘have’ the ‘Piece-of-Paper’, you have a ‘Book’ –which is ‘Paper’, yes – I mean which you can-then ‘Quote’ ‘Strange’-Sentences that has been ‘Translated’ in ‘Many’ Different-‘Ways’ if you ‘Dare’-to ‘Look’ – And all of these that hold ‘Apparently’ a ‘Promise’ for Something-‘Better’ to-‘Come’ ‘After’ this-‘Life’.

The Question would be: ‘Why’-is all the ‘Systems’ ‘Promoting’ a ‘Point’ that Do-‘Not’ ‘Give’ the ‘Person’ Participating in the ‘System’- ‘Unless’ they are the ‘Elite’ – an ‘Opportunity’ to ‘Have’ the ‘Experience’ of a ‘Dignified’ ‘Proper-Life’ In ‘This Life’? ‘Why’-is the ‘Education-Systems’ Not- ‘Providing’ for that? ‘Why’-is the ‘Religions’ Not ‘Based’-on ‘Making’ and ‘Presenting’ and ‘Preserving’ and, ‘Working’ for a ‘Better-World’?

‘Why’-is the ‘Governments’ Not-‘Working’ to ‘Improve’ their People? – ‘Why’ are they Only-‘Working’ to Pay-‘Interest’? ‘Who’- is Getting ‘All’ this ‘Money’ that ‘Disappear’ in ‘Interest’? – ‘Who’ gets ‘All the Benefit’ of all the ‘Faith’? ‘Apparently’ it’s ‘God’ - I mean is the ‘Federal Reserve’ and the ‘Banks’ and the ‘Governments’ ‘God’, that they ‘Can-Do’ with the People’s Labor ‘What they Want’?

What Will it-‘Take’ for Humanity to ‘See’: There is No-‘Difference’ between the ‘Money-System’, the ‘Government-System’ and the ‘Religions’ –they ‘All’ have the Same-‘Agenda’, they ‘All’ are ‘Stealing-You Blind’ – If it’s Not your-‘Soul’, they’re ‘Stealing’ Your-‘Energy’, Your-‘Spirituality’- it is Your-‘Money’ they’re ‘Stealing’.

And have a-‘look’: Everyday you ‘Participate’ in the ‘System’- You will Not-take ‘Any’ of Your-‘Money’ and ‘place’-it where there, for Instance,can be ‘Made’ a ‘Real’-‘Difference’- You will ‘Support’ the ‘System’ ‘Day-by-Day’. So ‘Really’ Look-at ‘What it-is’ you’re doing with Your-‘Money’, ‘What it-is’ that you’re doing with Your- ‘Energy’ – ‘What’ are You ‘Supporting’, ‘Why’ are you ‘Converting’ continuously, kind-of-like ‘Upgrading’ to a ‘New-Currency’ a ‘New-Presence’ – ‘I am Now More-‘Present’. But you ‘used’ to say-that with your ‘Previous’ ‘Belief-System’ - and suddenly you’re ‘More-Present’ –but: Have you ‘Ever’-been ‘Present’ on ‘Earth’? What are You ‘Doing’-‘Here’ if You’re Not ‘Present’ on ‘Earth’?

Sunette/Dimensions - Time and Awareness Discussion

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:13 +0100

By: Sunette/Dimensions

08 March 2010

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiWZQVc_CVU

YT Comment
Time is NOT in your body.Dimensions are perceived by conscious beings. A dog has no perception of future events. Bees do and prepare for the future 4th D awareness. They can give complex directions because they have awareness of time and distance (dimensions). The dimensions are not in their bodies or our bodies. Physical beings/ objects occupy 3rd dimensional space. Awareness of occupying that space and being part of a whole is a 6th dimensional awareness.

Response(s):
Time is the Physical itself, measured within and as Breath – as each In-Breath and Out-Breath and that Moment in-between the In-Breath and Out-Breath = manifest a Moment. And as you walk Moment by Moment – standing in-between the In-Breath and Out-Breath as the Moment within-which you determine/decide ‘who you are’ In the Moment and what you’re going to Live as that Moment = manifest a ‘Sequence of Events’.

As each Thought, Action and Word Spoken within that Moment in-between the In-Breath and the Out-Breath Manifest Consequence, outflows of events from the Source that is you in all that you are and live in that Moment in Thought, Word and Deed – that take-place in Sequences.
This is what and how actual Time is and exist as within the Physical – Living Here in the Moment, from Moment to Moment. However – the ‘problem’ Humanity face, is not realising, seeing or understanding This Point – This Moment, in-between the In-Breath and Out-Breath within-which they decide/determine ‘who they are and what they live’ in and as that Moment – is currently creating their Reality and Experiences, and manifesting Consequence as outflows of Events that take-place in their World. Because they’re existing within That Moment, within the In-Breath and the Out-Breath as the Mind - Lost within the NOW of Consciousness within Past, Present and Future Time-Lines as the Network upon/within-which the Mind-Programming Calibrate its existence, so that the being remain trapped in Cycles of creating their Future from their Past within their Present-existence as the Conscious-Mind. The ‘various Dimensions’ you speak-of, is but an ‘hierarchical Mind-System’ based on the System of ‘Ascension’, wherein your Dimensional-Existence apparently determine your so-called Importance or Status, that beings are so desperately attempting-to / trying-to ‘Attain’. Such ‘Dimensions’ only exist within the Mind, the System.

It’s a System designed to Trap and Enslave beings into Mind-Dimensional Realities separating them further from that which is Real as the Physical, the Physical which exist-as the actual answer to who you are, as their Eyes are fixated on the Light and Ascension, they’re blinded from Themselves that is right here, in the Physical. Stop the Dementia within the Hierarchical Dimensions of Time and Space as existent within the Mind, and SEE what is HERE in and as the PHYSICAL, all that is Real is ‘who you are and what you live’ in that Moment in-between the In-Breath and the Out-Breath = as this is the Moment that determine you, that create your reality.

Thus – we suggest, to stop defining yourself as a System, the Mind, lost within dementia of the dimensions such as 4thD and 6thD and so-on, stick to Breath Here, become self-directive and self-aware Here in the Moment, so that – you become the directive-principle of you within your reality, so that we can all stand together as that Moment within and as the principle of equality and oneness, living actual equality and oneness here in and as the physical, wherein who we are and what we live in and as that moment, is done within the standing and consideration of what’s best for all, equal and one.

And in this manifest and create a reality within-which all are equal as one. Instead-of abdicating our responsibility for what we create and manifest in that Moment in-between the In-Breath and the Out-Breath to the Mind, wherein we blame events/situations that Manifest within our world/reality on everything and everyone-else, instead of realising that = we’ve created our life-experience, as the events and situations we face as manifested-consequence through and as the Mind within the Cycles of past, present and future as the Now of Consciousness.

Thus – to stop manifested-consequence, to stop creating consequence that compromise ourselves and existence as-ourselves, we slow-down – stand here in and as Breath, take responsibility for our actions and words within living self-honestly, and facing that which we’ve done and become, and start living within the principle of equality and oneness in and as that Moment – to stop the cycles of consequence.

Such ‘awareness’ exist, yet again = within the Dimensions of Mind. The being is not yet SELF-Aware, SELF-Awareness in relation to the Actual Self, that Self which stand and live and is Equal and One with and as all that exist In-Fact and is HERE as-That, which can also be referred to as LIFE-Awareness.

What you’re referring to within the your Post is one facet of ‘Mind-Awareness’, wherein the being become ‘more conscious’ of the various dimensional hierarchical mind-structures, which is manifested and existent within multiple dimensional layers within the Mind-itself, that manifest the hierarchical mind-platform, wherein the being ‘ascend through dimensional layers’ in their own Mind, thinking/believing that they’re becoming ‘more aware’ = when/while, all they’re participating within / trapped within – is the Mind-Itself.
Just going deeper and further into the manifested structure of the Mind, losing themselves even more as they live to attain something that’s THERE, far into the Limitations of their Mind – sending themselves into the Ultimate Trap: believing that their ‘self-aware’ through ‘attaining’ the ‘reward’ at the end of their road as enlightenment. The Moment they reach enlightenment after they’ve travelled far into their own Mind, within the various hierarchical dimensional layers in which the mind is constructed, they reach a ‘containment’ within the top-most mind-dimensional layer, wherein ‘pure white energy’ exist, which they access and then experience and then believe they are ‘superior beings of light’.

This same Mind-Hierarchical Dimensional Layered Structure existed in Heaven, that enslaved beings into attainment, through ascension and achieving apparent enlightenment and status of superiority/power.
This exist no-more = there are no more multiple dimensional layers within Heaven, in-fact = there is no Heaven – the Beings that die return here into the Physical to walk their Process in Facing Consequence. Some re-incarnate others amalgamate with and as the Physical. Human Beings can’t see them, hear them or speak with them = because Human Beings are NOT IN THE PHYSICAL, they’re lost within their Mind-Dimensional Realities within the Mind Consciousness System, stuck in Cycles within the Now of Consciousness.

The Only Hierarchical Structure of Multiple Dimensional Layers now only exist within each Human Beings Mind, within and as their own Mind. Thus – whatever dimensional-layered realities you experience/participate within = exist within your own Mind, and is simply an indication that you’re not Here in and as the Physical.

To be Here in and as the Physical, is to walk as Breath, be Breath – to Stop the Mind and amalgamate with and as the Physical, through walking self-honesty, self-forgiveness, writing and self-corrective action.
Which is a process to be walked, not something to be attained/achieved – but Lived In Fact, Here.

Sunette/Dimensions - Meditation Discussion

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:30:08 +0100

By: Sunette/Dimensions
07 March 2010

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiWZQVc_CVU

YT Comment:
The purpose of meditation is non attachment to thoughts and the mind consciousness system and being one wtih all that is without the need to depend upon other dimensional beings. If anything feeds the mind consciousness system it would be distraction by personalities and focus on physical. The purpose of focus on breath is to release from attachment to impermanent physicality. Control is NOT the objective of meditation (medium/neutrality) it is about release from 3rd dimensional existence.

Response(s):

Non-attachment to Thoughts and the Mind Consciousness System, is not a solution to stopping/changing who a being is within the very fabric/substance of what they’re living within and as the Physical. Because the being IS the Thoughts, IS the Mind Consciousness System that is being lived in and as the Physical. Thoughts are the manifested holographic projection of the manifested Resonance that is Lived in the Physical AS THE BEING Thoughts reflect YOU, as what you are and accept and allow yourself to Live in and as the Physical.
Thus attempting/trying Non-Attachments from Thoughts and the Mind-Consciousness System is attempting/trying Non-Attachment from-Yourself, and that which you’re physically living and manifested yourself to be = which is Impossible.

Thoughts and the Mind Consciousness System, isn’t something that you’re just attached to like a string that can be detached, and then you’re miraculously self-enlightened, free, self-aware, self-realised etc. lol FAR FROM IT. If this was so easy, man would we be existing in a different world by now, as we would’ve gladly detached everyone’s strings to Thoughts and the Mind Consciousness System so that they can self-realise. Unfortunately this is not the REALITY of the problem were facing.

The Reality of the Problem were facing is that you’ve constructed and programmed yourself AS the Mind Consciousness System, IN the Physical with Thoughts as your guideline to ensure you remain existent as what you’ve created yourself to be as this Mind Consciousness System that you’re living in and as the Physical.
You’ve LIVED YOURSELF INTO EXISTENCE as who and what you are in and as the Physical as that which you speak, think and do in every Moment, since BIRTH.

Thus to actually stop and change who you are and what you live is done in Moments of Participation, within this physical reality. Wherein you stand-up and change you in the very Moment of participation when you see that you’re accepting and allowing yourself to participate in self-dishonesty / -deception = you stop-yourself, and change yourself immediately in the Moment, through self-will and self-directive principle to speak and express self-honestly.
This is how actual self-change in and as the physical in Moments of Participation in Reality, and as you start walking-this constantly and consistently = actual self-realisation emerge, with which you can stand by and as eternally. In this process self forgiveness assist and support, for you to be able to see what you’re doing, so that you’re able to within the seeing what you’re doing, through and within self-forgiveness = stop what you’re doing in Moments of Participation in this Reality, within-Yourself.
It’s about stopping/changing who you are and what you live from a Mind Consciousness System Reality, to amalgamation with and as the Physical.

See the POINT that’s being MISSED, is that we’re not going to change who we are, which is manifested within what and how we think, what and how we speak and what and how we live, physically within our direct-participation in-Reality, through only changing our inner-Realities. We have to apply/live what we change within so that who we are within, is equal and one with and as who we are without.

You’ll find, that you can stop Thoughts, detach from Thoughts as much as you want, it won’t change who you are in physical-reality, within your direct-participation with your environment and people = you’ll still have the same reactions, the same Thoughts, the same actions towards your environment and people = because you’re not changing yourself in Moments when it matters, when/while you’re participating in reality.
You’ve only changed/shifted your perception of yourself within your Mind = but how you live and what you live = still remain the same.
This is not actual, real physical-change = but perceptual change, wherein you simply shift from one idea of yourself to another idea of yourself within the many dimensions of the Mind, shifting between varying mind-dimensions.
BUT if you clearly investigate yourself in Moment of direct-participation in-Reality your thoughts, words and deeds = you’ll SEE YOURSELF and realise YOU, yourself haven’t changed, you’re still existing within and participating within the exact same habits and behaviours.

The Physical is what is Real it is within and as the Physical, through the Mind that we create and manifest who we are through what we live in and as the Physical, within and through the Mind. Thus, we suggest to start investigating how one is living through the Mind in the Physical, to Stop and become the self-directive principle that live in and as the Physical, instead of through the Mind that create for-you = which manifest consequence, you become the starting-point that stand in and as and with the physical, within the principle of equality and oneness.

This is quite a process, not something that will be solved by/through a Miracle such as mere detachment from what you’ve become, are and live, but a physical practical walking moment by moment, breath by breath as you stop and change you within actual living participation, which self-forgiveness assist and support with.

YouTube Comment:
Meditation is from the word medium neutrality. It is about releasing from 3rd dimensional physicality illusion, thoughts and mind consciousness system. My practical experience. Interacting with entities and focus on impermanent physicality feeds the mind system NOT meditation. Meditation is about non attachment not control of anything/mastering one's own mind/self/ego. To communicate from outside of 3rd Dimension as non physical & claim that physical is all that is real is a contradiction.

Response(s)
Thus – how Meditation plays an active part within and as the Mind, (within the context of what’s been written within Parts One to Thirteen of A), is that – Meditation literally takes you ‘Into Mind-Dimensions’, wherein you literally experience yourself in and as a ‘Mind-Space’, becoming the very manifestation of and as separation from/of that which is real: The Physical.

To Meditate – one access a certain specific ‘experience’ or eventually ‘attain’ a certain specific ‘experience’ = this ‘experience’ consist-of/exist-as Mind-Energy.
Thus – within and during Meditation, one only enter a Mind-Space for a Moment, within-which one have a particular Energetic ‘experience – in which one remain for only a moment.
Because all your focus and attention goes to the application of ‘Meditation’, wherein – because you’re focusing on-it / paying attention to-it = you’re manifesting it as a physical-experience = that isn’t Real, because it consist of and exist as Energy. Energy that you only experience for the Moment you focus on-it / pay attention to-it.
Then, once you’re done, it’s gone and you go back to who and how you were before the momentary Meditation ‘experience’. Nothing of you as who you are in fact change = which you will see in your thoughts, reactions and behaviours within yourself = it still remain the same.
But – you’ll try and suppress it within-yourself, the fact that ‘who you are’ is not changing, through making yourself believe that you’re different, based on the energetic experiences you’re having of Mind within and during Mediation, within your secluded Mind-Space.
Then – you start defining yourself according to the energetic experiences you’re having, creating/manifesting an alternate new Mind-Personality of yourself within-yourself, and so = through Meditation, simply create a new Personality of Mind, which come with its different energetic-experience = and there you’ve created a ‘new you’ in your Own Mind.

But – if you slow yourself down in Breath, during participation in-Reality – you’ll notice you, the actual you, as what you live in moments of participation with people and your environment = is still unchanged.
The exact same ‘secret thoughts and conversations’ still go on in your Head where you have conversations with yourself towards your reality, while without = you’re projecting a false image of ‘you’ to other people as a ‘changed person’ = but within, the devil that is you still run amok. You can make yourself believe as much as you want that you’ve changed, that the actual you that you see in participation in reality has changed = but belief won’t make that fact.
Thus – through and within Meditation, which is a System-Manifestation you ‘become’, through entering a Mind-Space, to which you define-yourself within Energy. And within the definition within Energy = manifest a Personality, and your experience of that Personality you created for-yourself through Meditation within the Mind.
The More you meditate – the more you solidify and validate that Meditation Mind-Personality, and the more you manifest you, physically as-That Personality, which you more and more feed within and through Meditation.
Meditation that has become your primary ‘energetic feeding ground’ to ‘keep your Personality alive’. Because within and during Meditation – you access the Mind-Space, the manifested energy in which you ‘swim’ as you have your particular specific energetic-experience, and within remaining in that space of the Mind, within that energy that you experience = you feed your Mind-Persona.
In continuing doing-this, your Mind-Personality becomes automatic, takes-over in the form of Possession – wherein you don’t any-more see what you’re doing, because you’re lost within the becoming of you as a Mind-Personality.
Even to the Point that, you deliberately don’t see what you’re living in actual physical-reality, don’t notice how your thoughts, reactions hasn’t changed at-all = because you’re possessed by the Mind, lost in the Mind = separate from the Physical. Wherein – all that you’re aware of and experience is yourself and your energy that you’ve made yourself believe you are = not seeing the actual you, as/while and when you participate in reality with people.
Deliberately suppressing the thoughts and reactions that come-up that reflect the real, actual you that you’re living = but you simply brush away the thoughts and reactions that come-up, hiding them behind this Personality you’ve created through Meditation within your Mind.

Thus – within/during Meditation – you become your own Demon, feeding on yourself, the energy that Meditation manifest – to keep your Mind-Personality alive, projecting yourself as this light-being, an angelic presence = when the devil that is you, the truth of you – still lurks within as your secret Mind, thinking thoughts and having reactions towards people that’s the total opposite of what you’re projecting as being this apparent ‘light being’, ‘self-realised’ and ‘aware’ = LOL, when you’re far from it.

The real you is not going to go away - you can try and sweep away and suppress those thoughts and reactions you have as much as you want, you’re only feeding it even more through trying to suppress them, in which they compound even more, and you’re feeding your Mind even more – through/within Meditation, becoming completely possessed by a Personality = which is what has been happening now, lost in the dimension of Mind, separate from the Physical that is real here.

YouTube Comment:
Your perspective=your thoughts and how you put those thoughts together=mind. You are participating in the mind consciousness system as well. Meditation is NEUTRALITY. NON DUALITY realization. NON ATTACHMENT implies WHOLENESS. To imply Bliss/nuetrality "while the world is burning" is wrong or self deluding is judgment. One's ability to cope with what can't be changed is not self delusion, it is mastering self. Actions are actions in the material world. What thoughts will you use to shape it?

Response(s):
So – yes, you’re succeeding within remaining NEUTRAL within the MIND, because you’re balancing yourself within/between the One Polarity of suppressing the actual you that is coming-up in your secret mind of thoughts and conversations you have with yourself, and the energetic-reactions you so vehemently experience with that temper that rears its head so often within frustration and anger.

And balancing yourself within the Other Polarity of trying-to/attempting to maintain your Mind-Personality that you’ve created/constructed through the means of Meditation, which you feed with energy through Meditation, like a drug-addict getting their ‘fix’ / ‘experience’ – you get your ‘fix’ / ‘experience’ of Mind-Energy during/within Meditation that validate your Meditation-Personality.

So – within fighting to keep one part of you suppressed and fighting to keep the other part going, you’re in between those two Polarities you’ve separated yourself into, within the Mind = trying-to upkeep apparent ‘neutrality’.

See, neutrality can only exist in the Mind as the Mind exist within Polarity. For neutrality to exist, you must balance two opposites = which you’re currently doing, or trying to do in your own Mind – wherein you’ve split-yourself into two-Beings. And within that ‘fight for neutrality’ within balancing out the two you’s as the polarity-opposites you currently exist-as, Meditation is your momentary point of neutrality / balancing of the two Poles in/as which you exist, because – during meditation, you suppress the one you even more, and feed the other you even more, which only happen during the moment of Meditation.

In Meditation where the two polarities that is you, unify, and you balance them out for a moment, through suppressing the one and feeding the other.
I suggest coming back to reality and start seeing/realising what you’re doing = you’re making your experience of yourself quite complex within the Mind, through splitting yourself into two ‘you’s’, trying to maintain and suppress yourself simultaneously through energy simultaneously through energy within Meditation. Stop, slow yourself down in Breathe – observe your thoughts and reactions in moments of participation in reality/facing people = and you’ll see:
YOU haven’t actually changed at all, you’ve only made yourself believe that you have. Being HERE in and as BREATH – stopping Thought-Participation, living-practically in self-honesty in every Moment within the principle of equality and oneness that is assisted and supported by/through Self-Forgiveness – is standing-up and taking self-responsibility in every walking moment of living in this world. It’s not somewhere you go / something you do = it is who you are and how you live/participate. That does not exist within polarity/neutrality = but seeing what we’re doing and have become, and stopping, as/while we walk practically in this world/reality – in every moment of breath. Meditation is an attempt at the easy way out of facing ourselves and consequence. Actually taking self-responsibility and facing-self – to InFact stop and change, in actual reality = is done in every moment of breath, as we walk/participate in this reality that is-Us.

Interviews from the Farm 75: The Temptation of Jesus by Satan

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:25:36 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

01 March 2010

Now we get-to the whole-‘story’ of the ‘Temptation of Jesus’ by ‘Satan’. Now this story is ‘Used’ - and you can ‘use’ ‘this’-story also in ‘looking’-at the ‘Pattern’ of the ‘Prodigal Son’ and then ‘looking’-at the ‘Pattern’-of where ‘Jesus’ were ‘Tempted-by Satan’.

What was the ‘Three Temptations’?

Darryl: First-one was: ‘Turn the rocks into food so you won’t starve’.

Bernard: So that is ‘Turn the ‘Rocks’ into ‘Food’ - which is similar-to the point-of ‘Alchemy’, okay? What was the Second-one?

Darryl: I don’t remember the second one, wait a second – the third one I know what the Third-one was…

Bernard: That one was: ‘One jump-off a building…’

Darryl: ‘Jump-off the mountain and God will catch you’.

Bernard: And ya he’ll ‘catch’-you, which is similar-to ‘Levitation’, isn’t it? Okay? Which is the Interesting ‘New Age’ stuff in-between.

What was the Second-one? Second-one was: ‘Offering the ‘Earth’ as the ‘Kingdom’’.

Darryl: Oh he would give ‘Satan’, this was ‘Satan’s world so he was going to give, make him…’King of the World’. Bernard: ‘Satan’s World’ and it will give-you ‘Power’-Over the ‘Earth.’ Now have a look there – ‘Satan’s World’- So, does Any-‘Christian’ wants to-do Anything-‘Good’ for this World? No! Because according-to the ‘Jesus-Story’, this World is: ‘Satan’s World’- Do you Now ‘Understand’ ‘Why’ the ‘Christians’ want-to ‘Destroy’ the ‘World’? ‘Why’ they want ‘Doomsday’ and ‘Armageddon’?

Darryl: They do, yeah.

Bernard: ‘Why’ they Do-Not ‘Care’ How many ‘Animals’ become-‘Extinct’ and How-much… how many Rainforests they ‘Destroy’ for ‘Money’? Because ‘Money’ is ‘God’ and I mean ‘God’ is Not-‘Satan’, ‘Money’ is-Not ‘Satan’, come on! You’ve gotta ‘Survive’ in this World, and then you’re gonna ‘Return’-to ‘Heaven’.

And look: ‘Jesus’ ‘Rejected’ the World, in ‘Rejecting’ ‘Satan’s Temptations’ according-to the ‘Story’. Okay, so- Do the ‘People’ In-‘Fact’ turn the ‘Rocks’ into-‘Bread’? Oh yes they Do! They take the ‘Rocks’ whatever ‘form’-of it-is - and there’s many-‘forms’ from ‘gold’, to ‘iron’, to whatever - they make ‘Products’, and from the ‘Products’ they ‘Make-Money’, from the ‘Money’ they Buy ‘Bread’.

So, Do the ‘Human Beings’ In-‘Fact’ ‘Turn ‘Rocks’ into-‘Bread’’?

Everyone: Ya.

Bernard: So they’re Not ‘Rejecting’ ‘The Temptation’. If you have ‘Money’ in your pocket = You have ‘Fallen’ with the ‘First Temptation’: You have turned ‘Rocks’ into ‘Bread’.

Do the ‘Human’ In-‘Fact’ have ‘Power’ Over the ‘Earth’?

Everyone: Ya.

Bernard: Oh! so the ‘Human’ has accepted ‘Satan’s…’?

Andrea: …‘Kingdom’.

Bernard: …‘Kingdom’, they’ve ‘Accepted’ the ‘Power’ that ‘Satan’ ‘offered’-them ‘Over the World’. That’s done-through ‘Politics’, that’s done-through ‘Government, through-‘Education’, through ‘Money Systems’, through-‘Consumerism’, through-Every Single-‘thing’ that’s Existent - and is all the ‘Christians’ ‘Participating’ in-it?

Everyone: Ya.

Bernard: Every Single-One. So the ‘Second Temptation’ that Jesus ‘Presented’ and ‘Showed’ ‘How’-it ‘works’, Every ‘Human Being’ has ‘Fallen’ with-that.

The ‘Third’-one is?

Anna: ‘Jump-off the cliff’.

Bernard: Yes, ‘Jump-off the cliff and then you’ll ‘fly’’. Which-is - if one look at the ‘Metaphor’-there, that is ‘Indicative’-of going-ahead ‘blindly’ and Making a ‘Leap of Faith’, isn’t it? That is ‘Representing a ‘Leap of Faith’. So, is ‘Believing’ that Jesus ‘Died for Your Sins’ a ‘Leap of Faith’?

Everyone: Yeah.

Bernard: So, have ‘Everyone’ ‘Fallen’ for-that ‘Leap of Faith’ that there’s ‘Apparently’ something-‘Better’ in the ‘Here-After’?

Everyone: Yes

Bernard: So ‘Jesus’ withstood these ‘Temptations’ and left the ‘story’ and yet, ‘Everyone’ on ‘Earth’ - has ‘Fallen’ for-All ‘Three Temptations’.

And the ‘Third’-one is the ‘Leap of Faith’ - So, that would ‘Imply’ that the whole ‘Jesus’-story ‘Dying’ for your Sins’ is All a ‘Lie’, because it Requires a ‘Leap of Faith’- It’s Not-so In-‘Fact’, ‘Practically’ ‘Lived’ as a ‘Solution’-

You Don’t-‘Know’: ‘Satan’ has Got-You ‘All’!

Interviews from the Farm 74: The Prodigal Son

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:22:31 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
01-Mar-10

Okay, so the ‘Prodigal Son’ ‘story’ -which is many-times ‘used’ as an ‘Example’ -of ‘Supreme’- ‘Forgiveness’.

What is ‘Fascinating’-about the ‘story’ obviously is to ‘See’ what is ‘Latent’, ‘Tacitly’-implied within the ‘story’, and ‘How’ ‘that’ has ‘become’ - or ‘became’ - the ‘Cycle’ that Each-‘Human’ ‘lives’ on-‘Earth’ - And that has ‘become’ the Total-‘Design’ of the ‘Allowed’ and ‘Accepted’ ‘Human-Nature’ on-‘Earth’ - which is similar-to that-of, ‘Eating with the Pigs’- Interestingly-enough that the ‘Pig’ do feature a ‘few’-times in the Bible, in various-ways.

Now, this is all ‘Religious’-‘Programming’, and these-things has deeply-‘embedded’ in Every ‘Human-Being’ to such a ‘Degree’ that you cannot-‘See’ in the ‘story’ of the ‘Prodigal Son’, that it is one-of the ‘Greatest Deceptions’ Ever ‘Moved’ on the ‘Human-Mind’ and the ‘Human-Condition’. ‘Cause here is a ‘Child’ that goes to ‘his Father’, wanting his ‘Inheritance’ to go and ‘do-it’, 'His’-way.

What does that ‘say’? Being... ‘the Father’-being the ‘Creator’- and ‘the Son’-being the ‘Creation’ and the ‘Inheritance’-being the ‘Image and Likeness’- What does that ‘mean’? It ‘means’: that ‘the Son’ in ‘claiming’ his-‘Inheritance’, is In-‘Fact’ similar-to ‘the Fall’-of ‘Man’-

Darryl: Cain and Abel. On the...

Bernard: ‘Cain and Abel’ story, but also the ‘Fall’-of ‘One-third’ of ‘Heaven’- Same-‘Story’ repeated, just in a different-‘way’- with ‘One-third’ of-‘Heaven’ that ‘Fell’ with - - who was-that ‘Angel’? The 'Angel of Light’ –

Darryl: ‘Lucifer’.

Bernard: ‘Lucifer’- Okay. So-‘Here’ it-is, the whole-‘point’ of, again: the ‘Process’-of ‘Claiming what is ‘yours’’ ‘apparently’ - as ‘the Son’- and then doing with-it ‘what you ‘Wish’’- And then, what ‘happens’ in-that ‘Process’? The ‘Son’ ‘Squander’ his-‘Inheritance’ - sounds very-‘similar’ to what the ‘Human-Being’ is doing with the ‘Inheritance’ called 'Earth.'

In this case, one can also-say that ‘the Father’ is 'Earth', and the ‘Human’ is 'the Son', and that ‘the Son’ is ‘Claiming’ its-‘Inheritance’ by ‘Virtue’-of ‘Being-Here’, and ‘Designed’-then ‘Systems’ ‘accordingly’, to-have ‘Control’-over ‘What it ‘Wants’’-

And then, what is ‘fascinating’ is: when it's all ‘Squandered’, the ‘Son’ ends-up in: the ‘food-buckets’ with the ‘Pigs’ = ‘Eating with the Pigs’, which means it's ‘ending’-up with the ‘waste’, the ‘mess’- Because what does ‘Pigs’ normally get-‘fed’? The ‘Leftovers’- that-which is No-‘Longer’... they are like the ‘cleaners’ of the ‘mess’. So now you'll ‘end-up’ at-the ‘end of the day’ with the ‘waste’ the, the ‘remains’ of your ‘Squandering’- which is-like you ‘See’-now in the ‘World’, you have the ‘whole-World’ ‘Facing’ the ‘Remains’ of the ‘Squandering’ in your ‘Money-Systems’, in the ‘Waste’-Systems - the ‘Plastic in-the sea’, the ‘Extinction-of Animals’, the ‘Diseases’, all of-it is the Result-of: ‘Squandering’.

So, the ‘Inheritance’ – which is the ‘Image and Likeness of the ‘Creator’, has been ‘Squandered’ because, the ‘Actions’ of-the ‘Human’ was Not-‘Equal’ and ‘One’-with As ‘Support’ As What was ‘Given’ by ‘the Father’- which is the ‘Earth’ in this particular-‘story’.

So then ‘eventually’, ‘the Son’ ‘Returns’ to the ‘Father’, and that is kind-of ‘Presented’ as an ‘Act’-of ‘Forgiveness’, or an ‘Act’-of ‘Asking for Mercy’, but ‘Implying’ ‘Forgiveness’ – which is then also the ‘point’-of ‘Claiming’-that ‘Forgiveness’-somehow ‘wash-Away’ all the ‘Squandering’ and the ‘mess’.

Now have a-‘look’ at the fascinating-‘story’ as where ‘the Child’ then ‘Returns to the Father’ – ‘the Son’ ‘Returns’-to ‘the Father’- but ‘Leaves-Behind’ the ‘Mess’, do No-‘Restitution’ and nor fix-‘nothing’ that was ‘done’, it’s just ‘left’ like-that. And the ‘Forgiveness’ somehow, ‘Supremely’ ‘Ordains’ the ‘Offering’ of ‘Another-Being’, and the ‘Bloodletting’ of-that ‘Being’ to ‘Claim’ that the ‘Forgiveness’ was ‘Complete’ and that ‘the Father’ had ‘All the Rights’ to ‘do’-that.

Now, the whole ‘Religious’ ‘System’ follows the Same-‘Cycle’. You are ‘Here’-on ‘Earth’, and you are ‘apparently’ ‘Born in-Sin’ therefore, you are ‘Allowed’-to ‘Squander’ -You're ‘Allowed’ to ‘Create’ a ‘Mess’, and you are ‘Allowed’-to ‘Mess-up’ the whole-‘Reality’ because: Your ‘Father’ ‘Gave’-you it as your-‘Inheritance’ – And, ‘Gave’-you the ‘Permission’ and the ‘Tool’ with-which to ‘Squander’, which is called ‘Free Will’ - and that You are ‘Allowed’ to-‘Use’ this ‘Tool’ ‘To-‘Do’ As You-‘Like’’- Which is Exactly the ‘Prodigal Son' ‘story’- And then, when you’re ‘finished’- ‘Squandering’ and there's nothing-else you can ‘Mess’-up, then you can ‘Return’ to Your ‘Father’- because Your ‘Father’ has ‘Promised’-you ‘Forgiveness’ in-this ‘story’. Doesn't matter ‘What’ You-‘Do’ = You will-be ‘Forgiven’!

Now what's the ‘Implication’ of-this? Is ‘this’ what you’re ‘Teaching’ your-‘Children’? – This is what's been ‘Taught’ to the ‘Children’, this is what the ‘Adults’ are ‘Living-out’, This is what ‘Everybody’ in-the ‘World’ is ‘Living-out’: this ‘Story’. Then, ‘the Father’ is just-going to ‘Forgive’-you, and you're gonna ‘Leave the ‘Mess’- ‘Behind’.

Do you see any ‘Point’-of ‘Responsibility’ in that-‘story’ at-All?

Everybody: No.

Bernard: Do you see ‘Anything’ ‘Worthy of Life’ in-that ‘story’?

Everybody: No.

Bernard: Do you see a ‘Father’ ‘Worthy’ of ‘Being a ‘Father’’?

Everybody: No.

Bernard: Do you see ‘Anything’ in-that ‘story’ that ‘pertains’-to ‘Forgiveness’? ‘That’ ‘Forgiveness-story’ is ‘Deception’. ‘That’ ‘Forgiveness-story’ is the ‘Reason’ the ‘World’ ‘looks’ like-it-does. And Every-‘Christian’ that ‘Profess’ this ‘story’, and this ‘point’-of ‘Forgiveness’ – If you go and ‘investigate’ their-‘life’: you will ‘See’ ‘How’ they ‘Squander’, and ‘How’ they ‘Protect’ their ‘Self-Interest’ and ‘Allow’ the ‘Murder’-of ‘Starvation’, for instance, to-‘Exist’- They're just ‘Murderers’, ‘Liars’ and ‘Cheaters’.

‘Anyone’ that ‘Promulgate’ the ‘Money-System’ as-it ‘Exist’-Now - which is ‘basically’ a ‘Casino-System’, a ‘Lottery’ - and it is very-‘Clearly’ said: ‘Do-Not ‘Cast’ Lots’- meaning: what does-it ‘mean’? ‘Do Not-‘live’ on ‘Hope’ - But then and again, the ‘Bible’ says: ‘You must-have ‘Hope’ - ‘Hope’ is ‘Casting the Lot’ - It's a ‘Casino’ - You only-have ‘Hope’ in a ‘Casino’. You are Not-‘Directing’ the Situation In-‘Fact’.

So, the ‘Prodigal Son’ is In-‘Fact’, one of the ‘Base’ ‘Resonance-Patterns’ within-which ‘Everyone’-‘live’, ‘within’ the ‘Deceptive’ ‘part’ of the ‘System-Forgiveness’. You're going to-have to ‘Investigate’-this very-‘Clearly’ - to ‘See’ ‘where’ in your-life are You ‘Allowing’-yourself to ‘live’ as-the ‘Prodigal Son’ and Not-Take ‘Responsibility’ for ‘What is Here’. Because: When-You ‘Return to the Father’, there is Not gonna-be ‘Forgiveness’- This was ‘just a story’- It is Not-‘How’-it ‘Works’.

There will ‘Not’-be ‘Forgiveness’-You Will-‘Pay’ for ‘What You've ‘Done’. I mean, you ‘do’-that with your own-‘Child’- When your-‘Child’ ‘mess-up’, you ‘give’-them a ‘hiding’ and they ‘Teach’-them ‘Never’ to ‘do-it’ again. Do you ‘Expect’ ‘God’ to do anything-‘else’?

Interviews from the Farm 73: The Physical Universe

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:18:42 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
01 March 10

So let’s look-at the ‘Physical Universe’: Is the ‘Physical Universe’ ‘Necessary’ at-all? I mean Everybody wants to go to ‘Heaven’ and ‘Heaven’ has-got No ‘Physical Universe’ - Is the ‘Physical Universe’ at-all ‘Necessary’?

I mean, Where are you ‘from’? – You’re from the ‘Earth’, but do you Really ‘Care’-about the ‘Earth’? – You have a ‘Physical-Body’ – Do you Really ‘Care’ about-it? Or… Do you Only ‘Care’-about ‘The Mind’, Your ‘Consciousness’ – Your ‘Conscience’?

There seems to-be a ‘Interesting’ ‘Problem’-here, you… It is ‘Impossible’ for the Human to Exist, if it wasn’t for the ‘Physical Universe’ – it is ‘Impossible’ for You to be ‘Aware’ if you don’t-Have a ‘Human Body’ in your Current-‘State’ of ‘Awareness’ – So therefore, it is a ‘Critical’-‘Part’ of ‘Who’ you ‘Currently’ is ‘Hearing’ these ‘Words’.

So if that is a ‘Critical-Part’ – a ‘Part’ you cannot ‘Be’-‘without’ = that must be then having More-‘Power’ ‘over’-you than ‘You’-have ‘Power’-Yourself, isn’t it? Because ‘Remove’ this ‘Part’ and You are No-‘Longer’ ‘Here’.

The ‘Question’ then is: If ‘Common-Sense’ and Simple-‘Deduction’ can ‘show’-you that: The ‘Physical Universe’ is In-‘Fact’ More-‘Powerful’ than ‘You’, that must ‘Imply’ that the ‘Physical Universe’ is ‘God’: the ‘Real Creator’. And have a-Look – ‘Everything’ you can ‘Create’ comes-from: the ‘Physical Universe’ – ‘Nothing’ You ‘Create’ is ‘Originally’ from-You have-a look, Not a ‘Single-thing’, Not-even your ‘Knowledge’ – it’s all ‘based’-on things you’ve ‘done’-with the ‘Physical Universe’.

So if you start looking really ‘Closely’, you’ll ‘Notice’ a Fascinating-‘thing’: You can Actually ‘work-out’ What is ‘God’ in all of-this – ‘God’ is ‘Unconditionally’ ‘Loving’ – Who’s that? The ‘Physical Universe’.You Cannot-‘Exist’ without ‘God’ – Who’s that? The ‘Physical Universe’.

So, if you ‘Die’ where are you going? You can’t be going-to ‘God’, because you’re ‘Leaving’ the: ‘Physical Universe’. ‘Big-Problem’ - What ‘Returns-to ‘God’’? Your-‘Body’ –Not ‘You’. Who’s then the ‘Fallen’ from ‘Heaven’? Must-be ‘You’. Otherwise You wouldn’t have ‘Been-Here’.

Why can’t you ‘Talk’-to the ‘Physical Universe’? At-‘Will’, at-‘All-Times’? That’s ‘Here’ – It… It’s ‘What’ you’re ‘Made-of’’ that’s Your ‘Creator’, the ‘Real’ ‘Real-Creator’ - ‘Proven’ – you can ‘Prove’-it in Every-Way. Not a ‘Single-thing’ you’ve Ever-‘Created’ as a ‘Human-Being’, you have ‘Created’ - with anything- ‘Anything’-‘Original’ – You had to ‘Always’-‘Use’ ‘something’ from the ‘Physical Universe’- there is Not a ‘Single-thing’ in ‘Creation’ - that which is called ‘Consciousness’ of the ‘Human’ – because the ‘Human’Created ‘Consciousness’ – there’s Not a ‘Single-thing’ that is ‘Original’ - ‘Nothing’ in this World – the ‘Consciousness’ as it-‘Exist’ – you go into ‘Dimensions’ of ‘Consciousness’- That’s all ‘Make-Believe’ you’re ‘making-up’ – it’s Not ‘Original’-though, because even in-‘that’, you’re ‘Using’ ‘Pictures’ and ‘Impressions’ - that you can find-somewhere in-the ‘Physical Universe’ ‘attempting’-to ‘Be-‘God’’ and ‘Divine’ – But I mean: ‘Nothing’, ‘Nothing’ You-have Ever ‘Thought’ or ‘Done’ is ‘Original’ - You’re Not-‘Original’ either.

Why ‘Fight’ for your ‘Uniqueness’ when You cannot-even ‘Sustain’-it? It’s just a ‘Temporary’-‘Delusion’.

Now ‘Hear’ the ‘Test’ that was ‘placed’ before-‘Man’: Will-You Be-‘Able’ to ‘Give’ to ‘Each-Other’ ‘Equally’? Will-You ‘Love Your Neighbor As Yourself’? Will-You ‘Do to Each-Other ‘What’s Best For All’’? Will-‘You’ Be-‘Equal’?

You can ‘Speak’-to the ‘Physical Universe’ and it’ll tell-you ‘that’-Is What It-is ‘Saying’.

Interviews from the Farm 72: Desteni & WAR

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:16:06 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
24 December 2009

This is on the Desteni and War, ‘War’, W-A-R - the ‘Rawness’ of Existence.

An interesting perspective is that we honor those that ‘Die’ for country, we honor that as a ‘Death in the Service of Those that is being Protected’ which is rather bizarre.

First place that ‘Protection’ is necessary - ‘What’ is being ‘Protected’? ‘Who’ is being ‘Protected’? A ‘way of Life’ is being ‘Protected’.

A different perspective on this all is, that those that ‘Die’ in the ‘Service of Life’ to Expose the Inequality and Brutality of the ‘Human Nature’, they currently is dying ‘Silently’, no one is ‘Honoring’-them, no one is even ‘noticing’ – it is the ‘Poor’, the ‘Starving’, the ‘Abused’, the Animals, the Plants - everything that is Purely ‘cannon fodder’ in a seemingly ‘Endless Battle’.

This is taking place ‘right in front of everyone’, yet there are those that Dare to ‘Service’ and ‘Honor’ and ‘Protect’ their ‘Elite’-Status that they have by virtue of ‘Birth’ and ‘System’ and ‘Money’, that hide behind that and ‘blindly’ participate in the Slaughter of millions ‘In the name-of’ ‘Self-Interest’, ‘Luxury’, ‘Fun’ and ‘Happiness’.

There are No Words that can describe the atrocities that’s being ‘Allowed’ under the ‘Name’ of this, obvious Human Cruelty - Look for yourself, put-on the other shoe: be the Animal, be the Starving and look-at ‘what it is’ that is being ‘Allowed’.

Dimensions - “Let Me S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T”, says the Ant to the Giant

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:07:10 +0100

01 March 2010

By: Dimensions

“Let Me S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T”, says the Ant to the Giant

Let’s S-P-E-L-L this O-U-T – dispelling the Spell ‘Possessive-Reactions’ of Mind - manifesting, when one accept and allow oneself to indulge within Thinking – the realm of illusion and delusion, and not take into consideration this physical-reality and oneself within-It, within the current ‘Laws’ the Physical exist and the current ‘Laws’ of the World-System we exist within, both of which – at the Moment, we’re in a sense ‘dependent-upon’ for our continued existence in Reality as it-Is.

‘Taking into Consideration’ – does not Mean: ‘Accept and Let Be’. ‘Taking into Consideration’ means: Not blindly ignoring/disregarding the Fact that we’re in a sense ‘Limited’ from a Physical-Perspective, within the Physical-Laws this Reality function and the current Operation within which the World-System Function; i.e. – the Money-System.

We’re in a Reality of ‘Survival’ = nothing we can do about it at this Stage, in this Immediate Moment. And because of this, to continue existing within this Reality – we have to, for a ‘Moment’ – live-Within and adhere-To these ‘Laws’, from the perspective of physically functioning in this Reality. Until we have the directive-principle to make a definitive, actual, substantial physical-change that stand eternally = not only in relation to ourselves as beings/humans, but all parts/manifestations/expression within, as and of existence.

However, we’re not accepting and allowing ourselves to ACCEPT such a continued existence of and as ourselves within Survival and Limitation.

Now – “...not accepting and allowing ourselves to ACCEPT such an continued existence of and as ourselves within Survival and Limitation” does not mean, rebuke/fight/rebel/resist against what is here as this Reality = you stand no-Chance within your current-Existence of understanding what Existence in its entirety comprises of, and what and who and how all and everything from the smallest to the greatest is involved in brining-about/manifesting/creating this Reality as-Is.

Therefore – (to put it quite frankly and plainly) = Don’t be deliberately Stupid, from the perspective of trying-to / attempting-to ‘prove something to yourself / to the world / to your Mind / to the system / to the physical’ through self-compromise, i.e. – quitting your job to apparently ‘face yourself’. You’ll prove nothing, but realising, upon what you already Know = that you’re fucked.

Let’s look at this Point within a Practical Context, utilizing the analogy of “The Giant and The Ant”, within the principle of ‘practical oneness and equality’.

There’s no-Way the Ant stand any-‘Chance’ against the Giant, from the Perspective of attempting-to / trying-to ‘change the Giant Itself’, within how the Giant Physically Exist in-Form, or through the Ant ‘throwing a tantrum’ against the Giant, through attempting-to / trying-to ‘fight-it’.
This would be ‘stupidity’, because the Ant is an Ant – the Giant, a Giant = this is their current Physical-Manifested existence in-which they exist, and as which they exist in terms of the relationship between the Two.
The Ant will prove Nothing through trying-to / attempting-to ‘face itself’, through deliberately placing itself in unnecessary Danger, through standing in-front of the Giant – the Giant still sees the Ant, as just an Ant – not as an Equal, and thus = will not Hesitate to Stand on the Ant, or completely disregard the Ant’s existence.
The Ant is not taking into consideration the current-Existence of the Giant, within ‘who the Giant is’ towards Himself and those/that which exist within his environment, such as the Ant – even though the Ant-itself, may live/understand the principle of equality and oneness = the Giant does not yet, therefore – the Solution is, the Ant must be an Example, through finding a way in which to assist and support the Giant to realise what it (the Ant) has Realised – herein, the Giant will see/realise, equal to and one with what the Ant has realised/seen – and within that, their relationship with each-other will change, and regard/consider each-other equally.

So, for example – the Ant realise that the Giant’s ‘view-point’ towards the Ant, exist within seeing the Ant, as just an Ant – nothing ‘more’, nothing ‘less’. And because the Giant, sees itself as just a Giant – ‘bigger’ than the Ant – it ‘believes itself’ to be ‘more than’ the Ant, and thus gives it ‘power / dominion’ over/of that which it perceives to be ‘smaller’.
Thus – the current relationship between the Giant and the Ant, exist within relation to ‘physical-size’ and the ‘acceptability’ of what the Ant and Giant believes themselves to be, within the context of ‘just being an Ant’ and ‘just being a Giant’.

So the Ant realises an interesting-thing, through looking-at this Point through the eyes of the Giant: Why is the Giant seeing the Ant (and thus all Ants) – as just Ants, nothing more, nothing less?

The Ant realises that, it’s because All Ants are accepting themselves as just Ants, which shows within the way they’re living/existing within this World – just being Ants, going-about their ‘Ant-Functions and Doings’ – day in and day out = just being Ants. Never questioning/considering ‘what they’re doing and why, and who they are within what they’re doing’ – they’ve been ‘born into an Ant-existence’ and accepted-themselves and what they do and how, as it being ‘all there is to their own-existence’.

The Ant, then – takes into consideration, that the Giant, Physically – is ‘MASSIVE’, and

1. that trying to stand in the face of the Giant, to fight-it / bring it down to ‘Notice’ the Ant’s existence / take the Ant’s existence into consideration = is impossible, due to the physical-manifested existence of the Giant in relation to ‘size’ – the Ant realise, that he’ll place-Himself into and as definite imminent danger, based on the common-sensical fact of their varying difference in physical-size.
2. that trying to have the Giant ‘hear-it’, through standing alone in the face of the Giant, through trying to communicate-it – is, at this stage, impossible, because the Giant will not Hear the Ant, because the Giant-itself does not yet understand/realise even the existence of the Ant within the point of equality to even consider communicating with-it

Within taking these two common-sensical facts into consideration – not from the perspective of ‘accepting’ the ‘Law of Physicality’ as ‘self-limitation, and ‘accepting’ that – because the Giant does not yet understand/see/realise the point of equality that - ‘the Ant has to give-up, and can’t do anything about the situation’.
The Facts, are merely ‘common-sensical’, from the perspective of consideration – because the Ant realise, this is the current-manifested physical-existence and relationship he (the Ant and all Ants) have with the Giant.

So – within deducing the existence of his physical-reality, the existence of the Giant and their relationship towards each-other, common-sensically = the Ant realises, that – the Giant doesn’t NOTICE the Ant, therefore – will not hesitate walking-over / stepping-on the Ant. So – the Ant realise the first-step to being able to get to the point of communication with the Giant – is being SEEN, being NOTICED – so that the Giant starts taking Notice of the existence of the Ant, to get the Giant’s ATTENTION.

Within-this – the Ant note, within his previous realisations, that – the Giant’s relationship is not to/towards this one Ant alone – it’s towards ALL Ants, so – if this one Ant, can get ALL Ants, to stand With-Him, equal and one – they can Face the Giant together, and assist and support the Giant within the principle of equality and oneness, to start taking into consideration the existence of the Ant, as equal to and as Him – then, his experience/relationship to the Ant, as all Ants = will change.

But – the Ant realise, that – he’s the only Ant that understands the principle of equality and oneness, that realised that he’s ‘more than just an Ant’ within ‘who he is’, and thus – his first ‘objective’, to getting all-Ants to stand with-Him, equal and one – is to assist and support the Ants, in realising/understanding/seeing what he has realised/understood and seen.

Now, understand – that – the fact that the Ant has realised/seen/understood the point of equality and oneness, does not mean

1. the Ant ‘physically changed’ – in form, he’s still as an Ant.
2. the Ant stopped applying his physical-actions and doings that Ants do, such as gathering food and building homes – it’s practical physical actions to support him in this World.
What has changed is WHO HE IS, within WHAT HE IS and HOW HE’S DOING-IT, meaning – he’s no-more just accepting-himself as just an Ant, just doing what he’s doing because he’s just an Ant – his experience within what he is and what he’s doing ‘changed’, because he realised that – he’s not just doing it because he’s just an Ant – he’s doing it for-Himself, and all-others that are existing with-Him, and within his – his whole experience of himself and his life has changed. Not the Physical-Actions / Physical-Manifestation = but WHO HE IS WITHIN-IT.

So the Ant sets course to All other-Ants as-Him – to assist and support-Them equal-to and one-with how he’s assisted and supported himself, within realising/understanding/seeing the point of equality and oneness.
The Ant becomes a walking-example to all other-Ants – showing them through action, sharing with them his experience of himself, his insights – while his walking with all the other Ants, doing the necessary ‘Ant-doings’ of building homes and gathering Food. Doing the same-things, in terms of the requirement to exist in this physical-reality – but showing-them, that they’re ‘more than what they believe themselves to be’ within the context of WHO THEY ARE within-Themselves. It’s not about stopping/changing what you’re doing in terms of physical-practicality to exist in this physical-reality in terms of gathering food and building homes – it’s about WHO YOU ARE within what you do, and your ‘relationship’ with all-those that you’re doing it WITH.

So – it takes some ‘time’ for the Ant to assist and support the other-Ants to realise/see/understand and live equal to and one with him, through being a talking, living-example – with them, as them, but soon – more and more start to see – with his words and actions together, and start to walk with-him, within-which they’re experience of themselves and each-other started changing = still continuing doing their necessary physical practical functions in this reality, still remaining physically as ants – but their experience of themselves within who they are and towards each other, changed – as they stood within the principle of equality and oneness within themselves and towards each-other, supporting themselves and each-other equally.

Now the Ant starts communicating the Point of the Giant – the one-Thing in their Reality, which they usually feared, and ‘danced around’ – making sure their always ‘out of his way’, to ensure he doesn’t
walk on-Them.

So the Ant presents a Solution:
That ALL Ants stand-together, before the Giant – to get him to NOTICE and SEE them, so that they can get his ATTENTION, so that they can SHOW him what they’ve realised, so that they can exist TOGETHER-with the Giant in this Reality – and no more fear the consequence of death, pain or injury – for-Themselves and Ants still to come.

And so the Ants stand-together, equal as one – before the Giant, millions of Ants, as they stand before the Giant.
The Giant Stops – NOTICES the ANTS, Bends-Down and for the First-Time SEES the Ants – whereby the Ants start communicating with the Giant, their current problem with-Him not taking their existence with him in this reality into consideration, and shows him the consequences it’s creating.

The Giant realises/sees the Ants ‘problem’ – realises, he’s with these ants in this existence, and that they’re actually beings, communicating with-him, able to communicate – they may be small in size, but they’re exactly as him – in this Reality.

With this – the Giant and the Ants come to the following solution:
The Giant will make himself a Path upon which he will walk – he’ll take note of where the ants have built their homes, and will from this moment forth – be aware of where he’s walking , and where the Ants are walking.
And so – the Ants and the Giant continued existing in their Reality, together – without fear, but within a equal and one Agreement of and as Support and Consideration, and started enjoying each-others company and equal and one support, within communication and action as what and how they live within who they are, towards themselves and others within their existence.

This Story of the Ant(s) and Giant is ‘equal to’ the ‘Problem’ we face as individual human-beings (the Ant(s)) in relation to, for example – the World-System, that currently function within the automated existence of the Money-System and the manifested-consequence it’s creating such as starvation, poverty, crime, war etc. (The Giant and the Consequences the Giant manifested in-Reality for the Ants).

The ‘Problem’ is not this Physical-Reality, being in Physical-Form, the ‘Problem’ is not the World-System in-Itself, is not the Money-System in-Itself – the World-System and Money-System is not Systems that function by-Itself alone = it’s DRIVEN by HUMAN-BEINGS.

So – trying-to ‘fight the Whole World-System / Money-System’ by-yourself – is Impossible. Because:
1. In this – you’re implying that it’s the World-/Money-System in-Itself that’s the ‘problem’, when it’s Not.
2. Trying-to Change the System – is not the Solution, the System exist as it does due to the starting-point of that which is manifesting/creating and continuing the existence of the System as it-is, which is the Human-Being.
It’s All driven as it is and the direction it’s going, and the consequences it’s manifested/manifesting – because of the Human-Drivers within the context of how they’re existing/participating within this world within WHO THEY ARE, of which there are Billions.

The ‘problem’ is/exist within WHO WE ARE, as our starting-point of participation within this Reality.

Thus, as the Ant realised –

1. it cannot face this Giant alone, that the Giant is not only affecting him, but all other Ants, equal to and one-with him.
Exactly as human-beings cannot face this World-/Money-System alone, that is not only affecting the individual, but all of Humanity.

2. That the Giant is the ‘way he is’ towards Ants, because of how the Ants are existing within the acceptance of ‘who they are’.
That the World-/Money-System exist the way it does, as it does and the consequences its manifesting, because of who humans are accepting and allowing themselves to be within ‘who they are’.

3. That – to Stop the Giant, is not going to help ‘fighting-it’ / ‘bringing it down’ or through the Ant deliberately placing-itself within Harms’ way.
As we can’t Stop the World-System/Money-System through ‘fighting-it’ / ‘bringing it down’ or through placing ourselves within unnecessary positions within/towards the World-System / Money-System, which manifest self-compromise within-Reality. Such as wanting to ‘quit one’s job to stop participating in the World-/Money-System’ – Again here, the problem is based on the System, not realising the Billions of Humans that is the source/cause that’s driving-It, and that – quitting one’s job to prove a point / make a statement – is self-interest, herein – you’re only considering yourself, not realising the problem is not the System, but ALL those driving-it / existing within-it, as WHO THEY ARE, towards themselves and all-others.
One Ant, as one Being will not make a difference – just as the Ant realised, within himself alone doing something about-it, is impossible – because, it’s not just about him, himself = ALL must STAND TOGETHER, as its ALL EQUALLY AS ONE, that is manifesting the existence of the World-/Money-System as it-Is.
As it was ALL the Ants, together, equally as one that was manifesting the Giant’s experience/relationship towards-Them, within them accepting and allowing themselves to be JUST ANTS, walking around the Giant in Fear – instead of facing him Together, to bring-forth a Solution for-Themselves Individually and All other Ants and All Ants still to Come.
Exactly as – we as Humanity must stand-Together, to bring-forth a solution – that consider not only ourselves individually – but all humans here, and still to come – so that we can exist within a reality of support, equally and no more within fear and consequence.

Thus, we’ve got the Solution, in terms of Equal, Practical Support for All of Humanity as an Equal Money-System – just as the Ant had his solution towards the Giant, in terms of assisting and supporting the Giant to consider/exist-with all Ants equally.

However, as the Ant realised – as all those in Process must realise = we must stand together as Humanity, within ‘who we are’ within the Principle of equality and oneness, wherein we can manifest a reality wherein we all can exist together, with each-other with an equal and one support-base, such as an equal money-system = wherein all are equally considered, and exist as one within this Reality we share.

This does not mean, we’ll physically change – or that, what is required to be done to continue existing in this reality will change, such as producing food and shelter, however, what will change is who we are within what we do and the experience of ourselves within, and with those that exist in this reality with-us.
We’ll no more do what we do, practically – such as producing food, building shelter, taking care of the environment and each-other in relation to physical basic needs/requirements within just considering ourselves within self-interest = but realise, that – no matter what we do, physically, practically to exist/function in this physical-world = we’re doing-it not only ourselves, but all-others that exist within this-Existence.

So – the ‘essence’ of this ‘Story’ is for those in Process to consider the following:

We’re currently in this PHYSICAL-REALITY, existing within a World-System, dependent on the current Money-System – nothing we can do about the System in-itself at the Moment, it’s how we’ve manifested the existence of ourselves within this World, upon which our current ‘survival’ in this Reality is ‘dependent’.
What we can stop and change, is ‘WHO WE ARE’, that’s been the ‘source/cause’ of the creation of this reality as we experience-it and exist within-it as our LIVED PARTICIPATION in reality within the starting-point ‘relationship’ towards ourselves all-Others.
Stopping and changing ‘who we are’, ‘facing who we are’ – is an INTERNEL PROCESS OF SELF-INTROSPECTION – changing who you are within through facing yourself within – transform what you live and how you live. This is the KEY to stopping how we’re existing in this World at the Moment.

Therefore, for the Moment – we’re going to have to continue existing within the World-System/Money-System as it is, because –again, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE SYSTEM, it’s who we are as human-beings, within how we LIVE.
Until – we get Human-Beings to WAKE-UP and realise the World is bigger than just-Themselves, that what happens in this World not only affect-Themselves, but ALL OF HUMANITY EQUALLY, and that we can Stop existing within this Reality as we are now – through standing together, and coming to a solution that take into consideration ALL OF HUMNAITY EQUALLY, as ONE.

So – exactly as with the Ant = you start with YOURSELF first, within WHO YOU ARE and how you LIVE as you participate in this world with other human-beings, within the current world-/money-system in this Physical-Reality.
You continue doing what you’re doing, taking care of yourself practically in this reality to provide yourself with Food and Shelter – but what will start changing is WHO YOU ARE in your Words and how you Live.
Then you walk as an Example – BECOME NOTICED AND SEEN, as a living-example, as you share yourself, your experiences, your realisations as you lived/walk in participation within this reality, exactly as the Ant did.

In this – beings will start asking Questions, considering what is being said, start changing who they are, how they live = this doesn’t mean you stop functioning practically in this reality with regards to money and a job = it simply starts changing your and everyone-else’s experience within ‘who they are’ towards themselves and each-other, within the principle of equality and oneness. And, so – as more and more stand-together, with each-other equally, as one – we can start implementing solutions, that consider all equally, as one.

So, SELF FIRST, become a walking example within WHO YOU ARE, which is done through self-forgiveness, writing – to realise self-honesty, to within the realisation of self-honesty within, start living self-honesty within the principle of equality and oneness, within what you’ll accept and allow within-yourself and your world and what not.

Be Seen and Noticed – SHARE YOURSELF, YOUR PROCESS – as/while you’re assisting and supporting yourself within your process to stop the Mind, within amalgamating yourself with and as the physical and all-else that exist, here through the Tools of self-forgiveness, self-honesty, writing, self-corrective action. Assist and support others as you’re assisting and supporting yourself – so that we can get Humanity, ourselves – to stand, live and be equal and one in fact, and so transform our experience within this Reality within ‘who we are’, and so be able to exist Together in this Physical-Reality – without Fear, but equal and one support.

Interviews from the Farm 71: Illusionists use Love with Great Effect

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:04:57 +0100

28 February 2010

By: Bernard Poolman

Okay so - your ‘Conscious Mind’ is your ‘Management of Participation’ in your ‘Immediate’ ‘Moment-to-Moment’ Reality that is ‘Interacting’ ‘at all-times’ with your ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Unconscious’. ‘Subconscious’ is your ‘Personality’-Mind –that means ‘All’ the ‘Influences’ that ‘Formed’-you as a ‘Being’ –your ‘Culture’ your ‘Language’, your ‘Family’, your all the ‘People’ you’ve known, your ‘Education’, your –all the things you are ‘Interacting’-with in some-way on a day-to-day basis.

Your ‘Unconscious’-Mind is the ‘World System’ –that means, the ‘Greater Reality’ that is ‘Managing’ the ‘Interaction’-of Everyone’s ‘Existence’. Because of the way the ‘Greater Reality’ ‘Exist’, your ‘Conscious-Mind’ is ‘subject’-to your ‘Subconscious’, and your ‘Subconscious’ is ‘subject’-to your ‘Unconscious’. So whenever you are ‘Interacting’ within the ‘Reality’ at a ‘Level’which will ‘Disturb’ the ‘Unconscious-Mind’, it’ll ‘send’-you a ‘Message’ of ‘Fear’. That was for instance all Programmed’-into Variations-of ‘Religion’ as an Example – the ‘Religion’-Point that was ‘Utilized’ was for instance the ‘Crucifixion’, and ‘God’ as a ‘Similar’ or ‘Equal’-to the ‘Unconscious-Mind’which is the ‘World System’ so-that, you see the ‘World System’ as something ‘too-Big’ to ‘Change’ and whenever you ‘take-it-on’ it’ll give you a ‘Fear-Message’ that: ‘you are ‘too-Small’ to Do-Anything about-it’, and therefore you will Not-‘Do’ Anything about-it.

In your ‘Reality’ in terms-of your ‘Subconscious’, you know that will be ‘Changing’ according-to your ‘Particular’ ‘Points’-of call-it ‘Evolution’. You decide that you had ‘Enough’ of ‘your Life’, you’re going-to for instance ‘Stop your Relationships’ and you’re gonna ‘Change your World’, just ‘Change your Life’ you’re gonna go in a ‘New Relationship’, then your ‘Subconscious’-Relationships will be ‘Re-Aligned’ and, some people will ‘Remain’ in your Life, some will ‘Change’- You will ‘Change your Behaviour’, You’ll suddenly become a more ‘Open’-Person or a more ‘Secluded’-Person or you’ll become more ‘Party’-like or whatever ‘Point’ you-‘Decide’ you now ‘Want’-to ‘Experience’-‘more’, and you will ‘Change’ your ‘Immediate’-‘Environment’ with-which you are going to ‘Interact’ with your ‘Conscious-Mind’ and then, you call that ‘Your Choice’ that you’ve ‘Exercised’ and that you’re ‘using your ‘Free Will’, and you’re now ‘Willing-Yourself’ to ‘Adjust’ your ‘Reality’.

In ‘that’-case you, for instance, will Never ‘Adjust’ Your ‘Unconscious Mind’ because your Unconscious Mind’ is your ‘Accepted’ ‘World-Reality’, but you’ll ‘Adjust’ your ‘Subconscious-Mind’.
So ‘Structural-Resonance Alignment’ is to-get your ‘Conscious Mind’, your ‘Unconscious’ and your ‘Subconscious-Mind’ ‘Aligned’ to a ‘Point’ where you-can ‘See’ that you-have ‘Sufficient’ ‘Will’, ‘Power’ and ‘Ability’ to ‘Actually’-‘Change’ the ‘Unconscious Mind’ –which is the ‘World System’ - into ‘something’ that ‘Support’ Everyone-‘Equally’, so that it is No-‘Longer’ a ‘System of Fear’ as it is Currently ‘Existing’-As –which means the ‘Identification’ of ‘All’ ‘Unconscious-Systems’ which is ‘Deliberately’ ‘Utilized’-to ‘Limit’-you within a ‘State-of Fear’ to Not ‘Take’-on the ‘Greater Reality’, and therefore ‘Accepting’ all-kinds of ‘forms’-of ‘Abuse’ from ‘Starvation’-to ‘Crime’-to… ‘Abuse’, to-‘War’, to ‘Pornography’, to ‘Child-Rape’, to ‘High-jacking’, to… Every-‘Possible’-‘Crime’ that ‘Exist’ at the ‘World-Level’ –

You must ‘Understand’ that Obviously that… there are ‘Beings’ in-‘Reality’ that is ‘Humans’ that are ‘Placing’-themselves - or were-‘Placed’ ‘Specifically’, dependent-on the‘Particular’-Situation - at ‘Points’ where they’re ‘Managing’ either Your ‘Subconscious-Reality’ or Your ‘Unconscious-Reality’. From their Perspective, they’re ‘Entering’ Virtually-like a ‘System’, ‘The System’- and they ‘Act’ on ‘one way’ as a ‘Person’ –which is with the ‘Conscious-Mind’- at another-level they ‘Act’-as a ‘System’ as somebody managing either a ‘Smaller’-Reality or a ‘Greater’-Reality and they Make the Decisions ‘Accordingly’ –

Obviously from their Perspective, they have Exactly the Same-‘Fears’ you-have in terms-of the ‘Greater Reality’ and therefore they ‘make-sure’ that the ‘Greater Reality’, the ‘Rules’ are ‘Imposed’ to ‘keep’ Everyone ‘Controlled’ within the ‘World-System’ –they don’t even Understand ‘Completely’, ‘Exactly’ what it is they’re doing because, all of-this is ‘Happening’ at a level-of ‘Resonance’ that they can’t see anyway, they’re simply just ‘Interacting’ within their ‘Belief’-System of ‘How’-it ‘Operates’ and ‘How’-it ‘Should’-‘Operate’ and they do-that from the Perspective-of ‘Fear’- and their Perspective of ‘Belief’, and ‘Belief’ is Always based-in ‘Fear’- Does that all make-sense?

Esteni: Yeah

Bernard: So that’s ‘Simplistically’ the, ‘Conscious’, ‘Unconscious’ and ‘Subconscious’ and ‘How’-it ‘Relates’-to ‘Reality’ and ‘How’ One ‘Interacts’ with-it and then within ‘Structural Resonance Alignment’, we’re now Slowly ‘taking’ all of-those ‘Points’ and we’re ‘bringing’-it ‘All-together’, so that One Eventually ‘handles’ both the ‘Subconscious ‘ and the ‘Unconscious’ In a ‘Conscious’-way that means, in ‘Full-Awareness’ that it is No-‘Longer’ ‘Consciousness’.

‘Consciousness’ in itself is the ‘Manifestation’ of the ‘Unconscious-Mind’ as a ‘System’ that ‘Operates’ by-Itself. The ‘Attempt’-to, for instance ‘Change’-that by just ‘Inserting’-‘Love’ ‘into-it’ is in its Very- ‘Essence’ –if one look-at the ‘Simple’-Mathematics of-it – ‘Impossible’, and will ‘Cause’ much-more ‘Harm’ to Many more ‘Beings’, because the ‘System’ in itself is Not-‘Adjusted’, it’s Simply becoming… taken to ‘another- level’ of ‘Blindness’ and, where one ‘Subjugate’ and ‘Limit’-yourself to a ‘Point’ where-You ‘Accept’ the ‘World-System’ as it-Is and you Wait for a ‘Better World’ or a ‘Better System’ ‘After-Death’ – You Do ‘In-Fact’ then ‘Nothing’ about Changing ‘That which you have Accepted as the ‘Reason’ for your Fear’.

And in-‘Spite’-of ‘Presenting’ ‘Love’ to Everything, you are still ‘In-Fear’ and you are just Refusing to See-it, because you’re ‘Unwilling’ to-Take the ‘Responsibility’ or-the ‘Risk’ as you perceive-it to ‘Actually’ ‘Change’ what you are ‘Seeing’ is ‘Happening’, because you ‘See’-Yourself as ‘too-Small’ to-Have ‘Any’- ‘Effect’.

Now Obviously whenever a ‘Being’ is ‘Presenting’-themselves as ‘too-Small’ to-Have ‘Any’-‘Effect’, and they also ‘Present’-themselves without the Common Sense to-‘See’ what is Really ‘going-on’ within the ‘Conscious’, ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Unconscious’ , or even ‘Attempt’-to see what is ‘going-on’ - from Desteni’s Perspective they are ‘Irrelevant’ and they are ‘Immediately’ ‘moved’ out-of ‘Process’ to a … to be ‘Recycled’. If they in the ‘Future’ at some-stage ‘Do’-‘Realize’, it’s Very-‘Simplistic’: they ‘Automatically’ are ‘back’-in the ‘Process’-with the few-‘Points’ where they have to ‘Prove’ their ‘Self-Honesty’, but I mean then ‘Self-Honesty’ is ‘Proven’ in terms-of their ‘Action’ they ‘take’.

Then the… that’s In-‘Essence’ the ‘Simplicity’ of ‘How’-it ‘Operates’.

Now what is Fascinating Obviously is that within the ‘Unconscious’, the ‘Subconscious’ and the ‘Conscious’, the ‘Being’ Currently-‘Exist’ Only as ‘Observer’ therefore, they only ‘Participate’ in what they ‘Observe’ and therefore ‘Nothing they Do’ is ‘Actually’ Ever-‘Real’, yet they are ‘Trapped’ in-that ‘Illusion’, and it just ‘Perpetuates’-through the ‘Participation’ in the ‘Illusion’ –yet, it is ‘Real’ in-‘Experience’ because, You ‘Make-it Real’ through your ‘Participation’ –yet, the Moment you ‘Stop’ your ‘Participation’ within-that ‘Illusion’ = the ‘Illusion’ ‘drops’.

This has been Explained in Many-Different ‘ways’ yet, ‘Beings’ will-Not ‘Give-up’ their ‘Participation’ in the ‘Illusion’ –I mean, Jesus said-it, Lao-Tzu, Osho, you-name-it - they All said ‘Stop! – ‘Drop the ‘Illusion’, but ‘Explaining’ Exactly ‘How’ that would ‘Operate’ has been a Very ‘Difficult’-thing yet, look-at the ‘Simplicity’ of-it.

You are ‘Participating’ in your ‘Observation’, and therefore you make your ‘Observation’ ‘Real’ which is the ‘Illusion’ –then you ‘Continue’-to ‘Participate’ in the ‘Illusion’ and therefore it seems to-be a ‘Real-Experience’ while it’s In-‘Fact’ Not-‘Real’.

If You would ‘Stop’ and Dare-yourself to look-at ‘What you’ve been ‘doing’’ and also, look-at those ‘around’-you what ‘they’re’-doing, you’ll Notice the ‘Illusion’-with ‘Great-Ease’.

Now, ‘Ego’ is where One take the ‘Observation’, base-your ‘Design’ of-Yourself as ‘Conscious’ - as the ‘Conscious-Mind’as ‘Consciousness’ ‘On’-that ‘Observation’, and you ‘Defend’-it as ‘Real’ because, you ‘Fear’ to-‘Lose’ what you’re ‘Participating’-in because, your ‘Observation’= you’ll ‘Always’ ‘Make the Rules’ to ‘fit’ ‘You’, to ‘make’-‘You’ ‘the Winner’ –so therefore it is a ‘Principle of Competition’.
In your ‘Observation’ you’re Always ‘Observing’ things from the ‘Point’ where ‘You Will Win’ and ‘You are Right’, therefore all of-that is your ‘Ego’, and then you ‘Participate’ in-‘that’ and therefore your ‘Experience’ seems-to-be ‘Real’. And you ‘Believe’ the Moment somebody walks-‘away’ from-you and ‘Refuse’-to ‘Participate’ in your ‘Observation’ that you have ‘Won’ –which is Not-‘True’, you didn’t –they’ve just ‘Seen’ through-you and told-you to ‘Fuck-off’ - but you can’t-even ‘See’-‘that’ because you’re in ‘Illusion’.

So, ‘Humanity’ is… Exists as ‘Illusionists’ seeing ‘Who’ can ‘Deceive’ the Other ‘More-Effectively’- that’s why we have a Totally ‘Corrupt’-Society- and ‘Everybody’ is ‘Participating’ in-it and they ‘Use’ Fascinating-ways – especially if you look-at ‘Consumerism’ you’ll see where it ‘Manifest’ ‘Best’ is in ‘Love’, and you look-at ‘Sex’: the word ‘Love’- look-at ‘Religion: the word ‘Love’ –‘Love’, ‘Love’, ‘Love’, ‘Love is the ‘Ultimate Deception’ because it is an ‘Observation’ which is then ‘Sold’ –that means it’s like a ‘form’-of ‘Possession’ where you get ‘Somebody’ to ‘Sell their Soul to you’ and then you, they become ‘Your ‘Sole’ Reason for Living’: which you call ‘Love’, because you have Complete-‘Possession’ over-them and you can ‘suck’ their ‘Energy’-dry for ‘the Rest of their ‘Life’’ –you call-it ‘Marriage’.

It’s ‘Night-Mare-riage’ the ‘Greatest Nightmare’ that Exist.
And then you-get ‘Children’ to make-sure the ‘Nightmare’-‘Continue’ for ‘the Rest of your Life’.
Such a ‘Wonderful’-thing: ‘Love’

A ‘Beautiful’ ‘Poison’ that slowly ‘drips’ and ‘Infatuates’ and ‘Releases’ a ‘Energetic’-‘Toxin’ that ‘Blinds’-one for ‘Anything’ that is ‘Real’ –and all you ‘look’-for then is ‘What you want-to ‘Observe’’ which will ‘Confirm’ to-you that ‘Love is Real’ –and there you are ‘Trapped’-in Your ‘Illusion’ because you’re only ‘Seeing’ what you ‘Want’-to and you’re ‘Creating’ what you ‘Want’-to ‘See’ –and therefore, you’re in this ‘Infinite’-‘Time-loop’ where You ‘Only’-‘See’ What you ‘Want’-to ‘See’ – and you’re ‘Creating’-it at the Same-‘Time’, isn’t it ‘Wonderful’ to be so ‘Powerful’?

Sunette & Bernard - The Celestial System

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:01:38 +0100

03 February 2010

Sunette

Sunette: We’re calling it the ‘Celestial System’?

Bernard: Ya.

Sunette: Alright - the ‘Celestial System’. This was a ‘System Manifestation’ in Certain Specific Human Beings that were Incarnated into this World, within a Specific ‘Life Design’.

The ‘Celestial System’ worked as follows: it had its ‘Four Primary Points’, which acted as ‘Pillar’ Formations. Now, this whole System Manifestation was inserted or situated within the stomach area with Four Primary ‘Pillars’ that were made out-of ‘White Crystal’ and that ‘Resonated’ ‘White-Light’.

The Formations in which these ‘Pillars’ were, were ‘Angelic’ in nature, with little ‘Mini-Crystals’ surrounding the ‘Angelic Figure’ - also made out-of-this ‘Light-Resonating White Crystal’.

In the Center of these ‘Four Points’ , there was this ‘White-Light Crystal-ball’, with also many, various ... which was made-up out of many little ‘Crystal’ Formations.

The Four Main ‘Pillars’ were linked into the ‘Sexual Centers’ and then to the ‘Mind Consciousness System ‘Oneness’-Connection’ which was situated just below the chest, within and just above the Solar Plexus.

Now what this System ‘Functioned’-as was to ‘Activate’ a ‘Leader’ –which was one Particular, Specific Human Being into an ‘Exaltation’ of Experiencing themselves as being a ‘Celestial Being’, being ‘Christed’, being ‘Sent by a God’ or ‘Gods’ –the various specific Points of, specifically ‘Religious’ in nature, ‘Spiritual’ in nature, ‘New Age’, etc. – any of those fields - and once the ‘Leader’ Point, the ‘Leader Being’ that was inserted with this Particular ‘System Manifestation’ would ‘Activate’, many other Human Beings would be ‘Activated’ along-‘with’ this Being because, the ‘Followers’ would also have a Particular ‘Crystal’ Manifested within their Solar Plexus, that was linked-into the ‘Primary Human Being’ with this ‘Primary System’. As I mentioned in the beginning, the ‘Primary Human Being’ with this ‘System Manifestation’ – all the ‘Crystal’ Formations of-which the ‘System’ was made-up of, each Individual, Singular ‘Crystal’ was linked-to a Singular Human Being = another Human Being.

So this whole System would ‘Activate’ within One ‘Primary Human Being’= the ‘Leader’, and then within many other Human Beings as the ‘Follower’. And so, in-essence a ‘New Religion’ would form, a ‘Spiritual Path’ would form, a ‘New Age Reform’ would manifest, ehm and..

Bernard: A Reformation

Sunette: Ya, and when this ‘White-Light Resonance’ as what this ‘Crystal’ Manifestation consist-of and exist-as would ‘Activate’, it would ‘Vibrate’ the Physical to a Specific ‘Frequency’, wherein the being would Feel and Experience themselves as being ‘Exalted’ even from the ‘Physical’ Experience Perspective, which would make-them ‘believe’ that they have been ‘God-Sent.’

Bernard: ‘Christed’.

Sunette: Or ‘Christed’.

Bernard: They were ‘Celestial’ – this was then ‘charged’ through Sex, Masturbation and Meditation – till it reached its appropriate ‘charge’.
The ‘Four Pillars’ was linked-to the ‘Four Directions’ of the Earth.

Sunette: The ‘Four Corners in the World’.

Bernard: Ya the ‘Four Corners of the World’, which is then how it ‘fits’ into the ‘Design’ of the ‘Consciousness System’.

Sunette: I mean they would... even later on the ‘Design’ became more intricate where there would be for example beings that would Emerge at the same time and which would, which is... in the past perceived or believed to be as ‘Channelling’, but these were actually ‘Pre-programmed Entities’ that were also Pre-Programmed ‘Into’ the System - so when the System ‘Activate’, these beings would ‘Activate’ along ‘with’-it, and there’d actually be Sections within the Human Being’s Mind that would fill with the Knowledge and the Information of the ‘Program’ of the ‘Entity’. The being would believe they’d be speaking to an ‘Actual Being from the Other-side’, when actually they were speaking-to a ‘Entity Programmed’ to Correlate with this Particular ‘System Manifestation’.

Dimensions - Example of Practical, Physical Self-Corrective Application

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:59:16 +0100

25 February 2010

By: Dimensions

A Point to consider / become ‘aware’-of within one’s Process / walking one’s Process:

Initially, within the starting of one’s Walking (within the Practical context, as you participate in your Physical Reality/World as Environment and other-People) – out of the Mind, into the Physical, ‘most’-of your ‘attention/focus’ will firstly be within stopping Thoughts, and stopping Reactions – which is the ‘Conscious-Mind’-aspect of ‘how’ self is currently existing.

Because our lives, up to now – have consisted of Only functioning through and within the realm of Mind as Thoughts and Reactions (Energy of Emotions and Feelings), wherein our ‘awareness’ (that which we’re ‘conscious’-of) has been limited to only ‘ourselves within the Mind’, the consequence that manifested because of that, is/has-been ‘Physical-Neglect/-Inconsideration’, wherein we’ve been completely ‘unaware’ of Ourselves within and as the Physical, and our Actual Physical Movements within situations/events and/or with other-People.

So, ‘Initially’ – one’s ‘focus and attention’ will be within stopping thoughts and reactions within Moments we become ‘conscious’ of-Them, meaning – Moments within-which we ‘see’ that we’re accepting and allowing ourselves to participate in Thoughts and Reactions within the walking-through our daily-life.

Together with Self-Forgiveness and the Practical, Actual Stopping of Thoughts and Reactions...
(Note: the application of stopping thoughts and reactions, through/by ‘seeing’-Them in-Moments, become more ‘specific’ through the application of self-forgiveness and writing through which self ‘see’ these aspects of mind-participation, become ‘aware’ of them, and within this ‘awareness’ – manifest the support for-Self to be able to stop-them, and no-more participate within-them, as one walk/experience one’s Reality/World)
... you’ll become more ‘aware’ of your Physical-Experience of Self, in relation to ‘Body-Movements and Pain’ – within and during this initial-Process. Your Physical-Experience of which you were previously completely unaware, and/or deliberately ignored, and/or suppressed, and/or didn’t realise the ‘context’ of your physical-experience in relation to yourself. Meaning – how you, within ‘who you are’ in a Moment, influence / have an effect on your actual physical body, and your experience within-It.

With this, have a look at the following:
Understand that Thoughts, are ‘holographic resonant-imprints’ within your Conscious-Mind, of and as that which you’re ‘resonantly living’ as the ‘lived-definition’ of ‘who you are’, as defined through the Mind Consciousness System – that is ‘physically lived’ ( and can be physically seen) within your ‘Physical-Body Behaviour’ as ‘Physical Movements/Experiences’.

Because you’re not/haven’t been ‘Physically Aware’ of-Yourself, you won’t initially ‘notice’ your Physical-Behaviour / Movements in relation to the Thoughts and Reactions you’re having = this will come as you walk your Process of Self-Forgiveness and Stopping Thoughts and Reactions Practically, wherein you’ll start seeing = how you’re actually ‘Physically Living’ / ‘Behaving’ / ‘Moving’ in relation to the Thoughts/Reactions you’re having.
Wherein you’ll realise that you’ll have to ‘Practically change’ your ‘Physical-Movement’ / ‘Behaviour’ in a Moment, as an Practical Act of Self-Movement – to stop/change/transform ‘who you are’ in a Moment, from Mind-Definition that you’ve always lived within the Mind, that reflected within your Physical-Movement = to Self-Movement as Self-Expression.

An Example:

(How this Point opened-Up with Katie during Discussion with her Resonance):

Within particular-specific Situation(s) with Cameron – Katie ‘experienced’ a Mind-Race of Thoughts going through-her, wherein the ‘string or line’ of Thoughts would be exactly the same/similar based-on the particular-specific situation that would play-out with Cameron.
She applied-Herself in relation to the Mind-Race of Thoughts, to the Point wherein the Thoughts would no-more occur within those particular-specific Situations with Cameron, but -what Katie was not-‘Aware’ of – was her ‘Physical-Experienced’-Reaction, in relation to the Mind-Reaction she was experiencing in those-Moments.
Thus – she had ‘worked-through’ the ‘Mind-Aspect’ of her Reaction within those particular-specific situations, but not yet with the ‘Physical-Aspect’ of her Reaction.
So – even though the Thoughts no-More occurred = her ‘Physical-Experience’ in such Moments still-Remained, wherein her ‘Physical Positioning / Body-Movement’ will still be the same, as the ‘Physical-Actuality’ of what she accepted and allowed herself to ‘live’ in those Moments, which the Thoughts ‘reflected’.

For Example – she was ‘aware’ of the Thoughts she was participating-In, but not that the ‘Physical-Manifestation’ of those-Thoughts, as what she’s accepting and allowing herself to ‘live/be’ in that Moment in the Physical-itself – manifested a Physical-Contraction and Retreat, wherein, for example – she’d ‘slump-down’ in the chair, and slowly, but surely ‘physically distance’ herself from Cameron – through, for example – not participating within-him physically.

Therefore, she’s worked with the ‘Reflection’ as Thoughts of what she’d accepted and allowed herself to live as ‘who she is’ in a Moment within actual Physical-Experience/living – but she hadn’t applied the actual Physical self-correction as self-movement, within actually physically changing her physical-participation in that Moment.

In-This, she could she, that – yes, she stopped the Thoughts, but she hadn’t applied the actual, practical physical self-movement in that Moment, and thus – still, in essence – remained within the exact-same ‘reactive-mode’ as she did-before = she hadn’t yet ‘changed herself’, she only ‘stopped’ the reflection of herself, that revealed within her Thoughts.
From/Within ‘seeing’-This – she started moving herself Physically, from the perspective of – actually standing-up from the chair, walking to Cameron and participating with-him, rather than ‘contracting into herself, slumping physically in the chair and retreating from experiencing the Moment with-Him, as she did-Before.

This is what we practically mean with: “Applying Self-Forgiveness, Stopping Thoughts and Reaction and SELF-CORRECTIVE ACTION, changing yourself Practically, in the Physical as you walk within Participation in your Reality”. Wherein – you stop the Thoughts, and change you within your physical-participation in-Reality = Changing from both within and without equal and one.

And, so – you ‘move yourself physically’ into and as self-change, and you’ll find – within moving yourself physically, you’ll in that Moment ‘change/transform the experience of you’ – because you went-from = Mind-Experience that ‘affected you physically in a certain-way/manner in relation to behaviour’ – to self-expression, through self-movement in the Physical, wherein you actually participate with and as what is Here. From Mind-Participation as 'Observer' of a Moment - to Participant in a Moment within Reality.

Demo - Understanding Realization and Self-Realization

info@desteni.co.za — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:56:22 +0100

20 January 2010

Demo

This Point has been ‘discussed / mentioned’ – before, however – I have found this to be an Important ‘Flag-Point’ / ‘Reminder’ for-Myself within walking my Process.

So – with regards to ‘Realisations’:
‘Realisations’ is when you have a ‘Quantum-Insight’, pertaining to Self, Personally – into/of a Particular Experience / Knowledge that pertains directly to Self – wherein Self ‘suddenly’ See a Point and within that Seeing – Immediately Understand ‘who self is’ in relation to that Experience/Knowledge.

Now – such Realisation Points is but a ‘Window of Opportunity’ to Self-Realisation – within-which Self has the Opportunity, to – as the ‘Quantum-Insight’ as the Moment, immediately direct/assert Self to ‘change’ in Actual Living Application from that Moment forth. Wherein, through living the Realisation-Point, in changing-Self in Actual-Living = the Realisation become an Actual Self-Realisation.

Be ‘aware’ of the fact, that – the Realisation in-Itself will not ‘alone’ / ‘by-itself’ ‘pull self through to actual self-change’ from that Moment forth – Self must be the ‘Living-Factor’ / ‘Asset’ from that Moment forth, to make the decision to actually change and then actually Do-It in Living-Application.
If/when this is not Done – the ‘Window of Opportunity’ will ‘Pass’ and you’ll ‘Forget’ about the Realisation Point, because then it only became a Point that you ‘Understood’ within Knowledge = because you didn’t take that Realised ‘Knowledge’ into Practical-Application.
Then – you’ll ‘Time-Loop’ – eventually get to the same Realisation Point, only in a different way/manner as another ‘Window of Opportunity’, and so – in essence, only prolong your own Process.

Thus, another-Point – indicating, that: Each one is Self-Responsible for the ‘Length, Duration and Experience of-Themselves’ within this-Existence.

See:
The ‘misconception’ often exist, that: When one has a ‘Realisation’, that – that ‘Realisation’ means “This is It” / “It’s Done” / “I got It, I’m Changed” – but, if you Self-Honestly observe your Actual Living/Participation in this World – you’ll Notice you’ve only changed/shifted in Knowledge = you haven’t actually in Living-Fact – Changed your Living-Beingness of ‘who you are’ = you still ‘live the same’; you’re only Thinking differently.

So, therefore – be ‘aware’ of this-Point, that you ensure that you don’t only change in ‘Thinking’ as ‘Shifting in Knowledge within your Mind’, but that you Actually change the Way you Live in and as the Physical, actually Change you in Practical-Application as you Live in this World = this is Actual Self-Change. Change that is Actually Seen within the Way you Live as you.

Demo.

Interviews from the Farm 70: The Hidden Face of Sexuality

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:33:50 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

02 January 2010

So this idea of Face-World was born from a single moment where I was walking towards Cameron sitting on a chair, whose hair was being trimmed and he was obviously having fun and
the face that was presented was peculiar. So I asked a few questions about this Face. What is this Face all about? What is this hair really presenting?

What is fascinating about hair, is that it presents sexuality. You can virtually call hair, ‘the lines of the rod’ with which you will ‘hook’ the being and their ‘hook’ is the Face. You find the right Face, then you ‘throw out the lines’, you ‘hook’ the beings and then you can put your ‘rod’ into ‘the cave of wonders’.

So -that is what hair represent, that‘s why ‘down under’ in the areas of your ‘real genes’ – the ‘genes’ that ‘tell it all’ – which is the genitals – there you have hair as well.

A suggestion is in Face-world to also shave the hair off your ‘hidden face’, the one you ‘hide’ between your legs -the place where the male ‘hold the eggs’ and the female ‘release the eggs’ and
the legs are the ‘pillars’ that keep that Face ready to ‘kiss’ the great ‘nuclear reaction’ called orgasm -which is the whole purpose of the organism,

within which is ‘riding a being’ that is hiding behind a Face. You’re not willing to look at this face that is presented and is using hair, hair, hair – it is all about Love!

Don’t you see? You were Programmed from the sixties already to end up today in saying:
‘Namaste! I recognise the ‘God’ in you as the ‘God’ in me’ - But there is no ‘God’ in me or you! Because if that was so, we would’ve been ‘God’ already
You are a liar, Namaste! You’re lying because you are not Living as God. You have a ‘False-Face’, while inside you, the ‘real you’ has got a ‘different story’ in your thoughts.

And your thoughts are the’ real god ‘– that’s the ‘real you’ – a liar and a cheater and a deceiver.
If you are Honest you would ‘synchronise’ your thoughts with your Face, so that you never may present a ‘False-Face’ to anyone.

If you can do that = that is an ‘Act of God’.
An ‘Act of Self-Honesty’ is an ‘Act of God’.
Then, you are on your way to reclaim your Godhood.

Resonance Interview: Overweight making my Relationship Hell - Katie

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:07:55 +0100

Katie's Resonance Discussion

17-Feb-10

Resonance: Alright, this is Katie’s Resonances and the topic or point of discussion is in relation to weight. Okay, the weight that we’re talking about, or discussing is specifically in relation to physical body weight. What we’re gonna be starting with is having a look at the word itself, weight, in relation to the resonant manifestation within which the word exist as physical body weight.

Because, if you have a look, in terms of weight there can be various definitions of weight, wherein each definition of weight carry a specific resonance within the word itself.

At the moment we’re going to look at the definition of weight in relation to physical body weight wherein each individual letter of the word has a particular specific symbolic manifestation, numerical manifestation - wherein it is integrated and manifested into the Mind Consciousness System platform within the unconscious mind, and because you the being is integrated into the Mind Consciousness System, you personalize that word for yourself. Okay - what that means is you define yourself personally in relation to the word weight and then form yourself according to each individual letter of the word in relation to the symbolic Resonance it exist as, does that make sense so far?

K: Yeah.

R: I can, for example explain to you in a more visual perspective. So if we have a look at the word Weight, now the resonant expression the word Weight carry at the moment is: physical body weight.

Okay, so the whole word in it’s entirety resonate the definition or scope thereof that we’re currently investigating as physical body weight.

Okay. Now each individual letter of the word has a specific symbolism-expression. That symbolism-expression is specific in relation to the current definition as the resonant expression of the word which is in relation to physical body weight, okay.

So, now what happens is for example within and as you program yourself into this reality, this world through the Mind Consciousness System, what you do is you’d personalize this word, the symbolism and the resonance thereof - according to and as your self definition. So, what we will be doing is, we’re gonna be looking at each individual letter, what each individual letter represents symbolically in relation to its current resonant manifestation as a definition thereof, as physical body weight.

K: Okay.

R: Okay, then also we’re going to look at the polarity opposite of the word within which we’re going to literally, almost reflect the word in its opposite manifestation, because remember the mind exist in polarity.

K: Okay.

R: So, you have your obvious polarity which is the obvious word you see with the W-E-I-G-H-T. The hidden polarity is the opposite reflection of the word - wherein from the opposite reflection we’re looking at digitals - the programming of the word in the Mind Consciousness System. And now you’ve programmed yourself in relation to the programming of the digitals that exist in words.

K: Okay.

R: That’s like the, that’s the Mind Consciousness System designed code that’s hidden within the word. The word itself is the Mind Consciousness System’s living aspect of the word itself, okay.

K: Okay.

R: So just some perspective on how we’re going to be approaching these discussions.

Alright so, if we have a look at the word Weight, individual letters W-E-I-G-H-T, okay. So if you have a look at the’ W', the W represent Female, feminine. Cause if you have a look the formation of the W is in the form of breasts, two breasts next to each other. The ‘e’ represents Energy.

The ‘i’ represent Personality, the “I” of Consciousness, when you refer to yourself : “I am this/that”, “I experience this/that”, that’s the “I” of Consciousness, the “who you are” in relation to how you’ve programmed yourself, in how you experience yourself currently.

The ‘g’ is Ego.

The ‘h’, if you have a look at the manifestation of H it’s, the point right there it’s like in a chair formation. But the point here at the bottom is where you’re literally pulling your ass to the ground and you’re just sitting, it’s literally Ass-sitting, okay.

And the ‘t’ represents Choice.

Okay, so what we’re going to be doing is we’re gonna have a look at how you have individually programmed yourself symbolically into each individual letter, okay?

K: Okay.

R: That’s manifested your current experience in relation to weight in its entirety, meaning -why is it that you’re for example physically picking up weight, feeling uncomfortable in your physical body. What is in essence behind it all? The access to that, finding out the source, is within the word itself. Within how you have defined yourself in relation to symbolism within each individual letter, okay?

K: Okay.

R: That’s Part 1 that we’re gonna be doing. Part 2, that we’re gonna be looking at, is the opposite, the polarity point.

K: Yeah, it’s interesting, I didn’t understand that at first but now that you’ve got it written down there it makes sense.

R: Okay, so Part 1 will be the obvious polarity point we’ll be looking at, so we can call this Part 1.
Part 2 is the hidden polarity point, the opposite, the reflection of the word itself that contain the Mind Consciousness System’s encoding of the word itself. And then also how you’ve defined yourself symbolically in relation to each individual reflective opposite letter.

K: Okay.

Resonance (R): Part 2 is the Hidden Polarity-point, the opposite, the reflection of the word itself that contain the Mind Consciousness System’s Encoding of the word itself. And then also how you’ve defined yourself symbolically in relation to each individual reflective opposite letter, okay.

Katie (K): Okay.

R: So here we go.

Reflecting ‘w' you get an ‘m’, the letter ‘m’ which represent the Male, the whole chest area, protruding chest you know males in the olden days long time ago with their ‘pride’, the ‘male stance’, the very protruding chest. So, there you have the male manifestation within the letter ‘m’.

K: Okay.

R: The ‘e’ reflected over get the number 6, the number 6 is a System Code representing Future-Programming.

If you have a look, all Numericals - you’re working with Numericals here at the moment - Numericals is System Code Programming, specifically at the letter 6 you’re looking at Future Programming because, you have the whole form of, for example, a woman being pregnant. There is the stomach and the whole leaning toward the future, okay.

The ‘i’ reflective you get the, an exclamation mark (!), which in System Code/ System Programming represent ‘Intensity’ and or ‘Warning’. Okay?

The ‘g’ reflected over you get an opposite 6, this is System Code representing ‘Past’, also an ‘impregnating the past’, meaning holding-on to the past.

Now if you interestingly have a look here just on the 6’s that’s the normal six and the opposite 6, the normal 6 representing ‘Future Programming’, the opposite 6 representing ‘Past Programming’, both are holding onto, constantly. So also, in essence bring back to weight, carrying weight, Okay?

Then we have the ‘h’ reflected over, we get a vertical line with a cup formation at the top of the line, alright? This is the ‘I’ Mind Manifestation of Self in the Physical. In other words, this would be the… the ‘Programming Symbol’ for a human being in essence within this world, because you have the ‘Now’ which is here the vertical line, and they’re stuck in the now within the Mind that’s represented by the cup because you have your past, future, now, you, you’re here in the now. T

he ‘Now’ is when you’re existing within the past, present, and future within the Mind, wherein your past constantly create your future, so you’re always stuck within the present, the ‘Now’, so this is the ‘Now’ Symbol Code, basically.

Then we’ve got the ‘t’ reflected over, you’ve got the letter ‘f'. Here is your ‘crossroads’ ‘Crucifixion of Self’ in the Now in which you exist within the Mind Consciousness System - if you have a look, it’s like a cross and then the top line of the vertical line cusp over to form a ‘upside-down cup’, alright?

Now what this is representing is again, you have your past and your future, constantly existing within your past and your future, you’re existing here ‘crucifying’ yourself because: you’re always ‘stuck’ within the same point which is the cross - because your past is constantly creating your future, and once the future comes, your past that you experienced in that future creates your next future point over and over and over and you cycle in the same point, you’re literally ‘crucifying yourself’ because you’re cycling in the exact same experiences in lifetimes over and over and over and over again.

So it’s ‘crucifying yourself’ on the cross of the System so to speak. Alright?

K: Okay.

R: that’s Part 2.

And now all that I’ve explained is the Basic Symbolism of the words and then the Encodings or Numerical Programming of the word within the Mind Consciousness System.

I know it must sound a bit over-the-top at the moment in terms of it not being yet tangibly understanding, however as we go through each individual point: you’ll get it.

K: Okay.

R: So even in then bring it into a Practical Perspective, we’re bringing it into the Practical Perspective point because we’re now going to discuss How You Created and Programmed yourself into this word, alright? In relation to both the Symbolism and Numerical Encoding, okay? So, let’s begin, that was merely introduction.

We’re starting with Part 1, which is the Symbolic Resonance of each individual letter within the word ‘weight’, okay?

So we’ll start with ‘w', which represents the Female or Feminine aspect.

Okay - now we’re gonna have a look at How you have defined-you within being a Female. Alright -so what do you experience females to be?

K: I would say…

R: The first word that comes up.

K: I was gonna say ‘sexual object’ was the first word that came up and then the word ‘mothering’ like ‘mother’.

R: Sexual Object, there’s a bit of anger there… and mother. Alright, there’s also ‘submissive’.

K: Yeah, I was gonna say ‘weak’ but that’s like the same.

R: ‘Submissive’ or ‘Weak’… Yeah, but yours is more, the ‘weakness’ interestingly enough comes more in the ‘male’ point for you - ‘Submission’ is more here in your definition within the Female.

K: Okay.

R: Which is quite interesting, so we’ll have a look at that with the ‘male’ point. Ok, submissive, sexual object, mother… strenuous or hard work, meaning - meaning it’s strenuous and hard work for you to be a Female, in your experience.

K: Yeah.

R: ‘Pleasure Slave’ - wherein you experience yourself as a ‘slave’ to for example a ‘male’ when you feel you are the one that has to ‘pleasure’ to keep the male satisfied for example in your experience of being a Female in relation to a Male.

K: Another thing that comes up for me is like that, I don’t know a word for it, but that point of where as the woman gets older they kind of ‘fall apart’, like it’s like the whole body starts to just.. you know, when you see older women it’s like their whole, they’ve been so ‘run through the mill’ their whole life that it’s like their whole body starts to sag and just fall and gain weight.

R: So, ‘Ageing’. ‘Consequential Ageing’, we shall call it that. Ok, interesting – ‘Acceptance’, ‘Tolerance’, ‘Abuse-Tolerance’- meaning wherein you see Females as having-to or ‘must’ tolerate abuse, that’s their place and position.

K: Yeah.

R: Okay, so we’ve got ‘Sexual object’, ‘Mother’, ‘Submissive’, ‘Strenuous/Hard work’, ‘Pleasure slave’, ‘Consequential ageing’… there the ‘Consequential Ageing’ is more a Fear point in relation to Female. ‘Mother’… ‘Sexual Object’ is anger point in terms of your experience toward it a female being a ‘Sexual object’ but this is definition currently in your experience in relation to Female. ‘Mother’… Mother is more like a, ‘the job’ of a Female… Mother, being a mother, the definition that’s currently existing within-you in relation to female - are you with me so far?

K: yeah.

R: I’m not moving too fast.

K: No.

R: Okay, ‘Strenuous/Hard Work’: this is in relation to the ‘Consequential Ageing’ as well meaning wherein the ‘Strenuous hard working’ Female inevitably gets ‘run down’ throughout her life and ends up literally almost ‘melting to the ground’.

K: Another point that comes up is like that, well what I’ve experienced within being a Female is the point of like ‘needing to protect yourself’- I’m not… it just comes up when I…

R: Protect yourself from what starting point though? What point comes up wherein you experience that you require and need to ‘Protect yourself’?

K: Just like protect myself from the world, from other people, from all the things that could happen like needing to be reserved, like needing to...

R: ‘Reserved’… so reservation - you’re looking at Vulnerability.

K: Yeah.

R: Reservation or Vulnerability - meaning wherein you won’t allow yourself to be Vulnerable then you, from there you get to the point of ‘Protection’ which is more of a Consequence of the original point.

K: Yeah.

R: Now have a look at where and from where have you gotten that idea.

K: I mean the first thing that’s coming up is just being in school and being like when I was very young and being considered as like an outcast from the boys from playing.

R: Okay…

K: Like the girls have to separate themselves but, I don’t really see how that fits in that was just the first thing that came up.

R: It’s more ‘Parental Influence’ if you have a look at words your parents spoke.

K: About being a Female? Yeah, like Protecting myself from people coming to the door or “don’t answer the phone” or, yeah, yeah definitely.

R: Okay, but instead of it being a point of Common Sense in relation to considering the current state of the world, it’s now become a point of Fear wherein you hide.

See, that’s quite interesting in terms of the parents teaching through Fear not understanding the Consequences that has within their children’s life later on, instead of explaining to them in a Equal manner: ‘listen, this is what’s going on in the world, this is the state of the world, this is why you can’t do this, this is why you can’t do that’ - most parents don’t explain to their children in sitting down communicating, telling them ‘why’ they’re saying that or why they’re saying no and things like that, they just simply say ‘No - don’t do that’ and try and Control the children in that manner.

K: Or they promote fear like the point of: my parents would say to me ‘don’t open the door because someone could come in here and hurt you’ – you know, it wasn’t like a point of ‘explaining’ anything it’s just ‘this person out there is coming out to hurt you’, so whenever someone would come to the door, I would always hide, my sister and I would like hide in the house and then like look through windows to see, see if we knew that person, or…

R: Fascinating…

R: Okay, so we’ve got let’s say have a look here also interesting – ‘Male’s Slave’ – these are your Primary Definition points of Female within your experience that you’re currently living, that is Directly related-to your current experience within ‘weight’ but only at the moment looking at the letter ‘w' – okay?

So, let’s start with point number one that you mentioned: ‘Sexual Object’, and with ‘Anger’: Okay, so why… it’s interesting that ‘Sexual Object’ would come up as the first point - it means it’s your most prominent kind of vexing experience of you within being a female, why?

K: Well, because you’re on, it’s like you’re on a, you’re in a Competition…

R: Okay…

K: where you’re being ‘objectified’ and compared to others, so in order to ‘be the best’ or whatever - and this started very young for me I can see - it was to…

R: ‘Stand out’.

K: Yeah. And like also belittle the other women around you - in even minor ways like to make yourself seem ‘the best’.

R: Are you speaking this now from inside yourself or your experience of males towards you?

K: I don’t necessarily see, I mean perhaps the males had an influence in that but I experience it as this was just something that I started doing like within my Secret-Mind, thinking about other females and belittling them in my mind so that I would at least feel as though I ‘stand out’ or convince myself to that point because I was… I thought that, that was the only way for myself to be, to have ‘Power’ or to be ‘Acceptable’.

R: Okay, now let’s have a look-at, there must be a Picture in your mind of a female.
Okay, now this Picture of the Female in your mind is the ‘God’ in your head in relation to ‘How I must be as a Female’, ok? Now this ‘God’ is speaking to you as this Picture through and within your mind manifesting you as this Personality of Competitiveness and Comparison, wherein you’re trying to shape form and manifest you as this woman, as this Picture within your mind, okay? So, ‘in your head’ explain to me the ‘Perfect Female’.

K: Thin.

R: Okay…

K: Blonde.

R: Long or short hair?

K: Long.

R: Ok, tall, short?

K: Tall.

R: Okay.

K: White, Perfect skin.

R: Perfect skin, is that soft skin or like…

K: Like ‘Flawless’.

R: Flawless okay - flawless skin, flawless almost like ‘silky’. K: Yeah, and like not like no blemishes, like just perfect.

R: Okay.

K: Like a long face.

R: Eye color?

K: Blue.

R: Okay.

K: Like teeth that are not big but not small you know just like a…

R: ‘Perfect’.

K: Yeah, ‘perfect teeth’ and ‘big lips’.

R: ‘Succulent’ lips,

Okay. K: Like ‘Athletic’.

R: Athletic build.

K: Like ‘average’ Breasts.

R: Okay, Nails Fingernails, long/short?

K: That’s not really…

R: Relevant, but manicured nails?

K: Yeah.

R: And, bum?

K: Average. R: Average which means nicely formed?

K: Yeah, like ‘athletic’, ‘tight’.

R: formed – there we go, ‘tight’, tight bum, okay.

K: ‘Thin legs’, like kind of wide hips though.

R: ‘Wider hips’.

K: Like wider.

R: Okay, so not completely, not ‘stick’-like.

K: No, not stick... yeah. R: Okay. Wider hips...

K: And kind of small feet, not really small, but smaller than mine.

R: Okay, that about describes your ‘Perfect Female’- ‘Woman’. Okay, so, now to look-at in which magazine did you see this woman? When were you, how old, you were quite young when you’d seen this.

K: Yeah.

R: Did you used to dress up in like princess dresses and stuff like that?

K: Definitely, Yeah.

R: Okay, so - as a child you dress up in ‘princess’ dresses and be the ‘perfect little girl’ and now you see your idol. For example, did you see her physically? Did you see her…

K: I would say it’s one of the Disney characters, I can’t remember her name… ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

R: Ah! ok, that you’ve transformed now almost into a Actual ‘Holographic Projection’ of a ‘Real’ Human Being that does not in essence exist in this absolute ‘Perfect’ manifestation except through Photoshop and surgery. Fascinating how it works.

K: Yeah.

R: Now this Picture, ‘Holographic Picture’ has been your Female/Feminine ‘God’ inside your head, okay? That you have a Symbiotic Relationship with - In other words, you through her - this Holographic Picture in your mind - Define Yourself in Comparison and then within that point here you, here is this Picture and now within this relationship you’re ‘comparing’ and ‘judging’ and ‘competing’- so to speak. Now you see for example, other women within your reality. Now this experience that’s existent will manifest within you, you’ll project in your outside world towards other females. Now remember, it’s really fascinating: whatever you experience in your outside world towards other people= it’s happening in real-time inside yourself.

K: Yeah.

R: So for example, whatever you’re experiencing towards other women, there is a ‘point’, a ‘manifestation’, another ‘being’, a ‘picture’, a ‘memory’ within your mind that you’re playing-out this same role. Make sense?

K: Yeah.

R: How that Operates, how that Works?

K: Yeah.

R: So, first thing of course is ‘Removing the Picture’ - that’s not real, at all. K: Right. R: In any way whatsoever.

So we’ve now discussed only the ‘Picture Point’ of this whole experience in relation-to the ‘Sexual Object’. Okay, so you as a child in ‘Sleeping Beauty’ experienced ‘desire’ when you watched ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

K: Yeah.

R: So ‘desire’ was your first, that point was your first Real Experience in relation to ‘desire’, wherein you linked ‘desire’ to the ‘Sleeping Beauty’ cartoon/animation/movie, okay?

Now, there was the Picture, the ‘Sleeping Beauty’ with the knight on a white horse coming to rescue the beautiful lady, kissing and all those things happening that brought up ‘desire’. Now, there you linked that whole, that relationship to ‘desire’.

Now what comes out is, as you grow up the cartoon animation starts going away and your focus starts shifting to Actual Reality, wherein you now seek that ‘desired experience’ with an actual boy within your world or your reality, okay? But, you’re not, it’s not that you’re seeking a ‘Relationship’, you’re seeking to ‘fulfill that desire’ to have that experience you had while watching the animation/cartoon ‘Sleeping Beauty’.

Then as you grew even more older, you transformed now you live more into reality - meaning your Holographics in your mind started changing because, as a child your world is still more ‘fantasy’ than ‘reality’ because you’re in a safe-secluded environment wherein you’re not yet Exposed to the world.

As you grow older and you’re more exposed to the world, everything starts becoming more Reality-based - then your Holographics in your mind starts changing from ‘Fantasy’ to ‘Reality’.

When that ‘shift’ starts happening, you Change that ‘Picture’ to a Physical Holographic Picture of an actual beautiful female and how you defined her to-be in your mind as we described it earlier, and the perfect male.

So the male you’re looking-for is like within ‘Sleeping Beauty’- and fascinatingly enough it looks very similar to Cameron, hey? The short brown hair, tall, dark, lean.

K: Yeah.

R: Strong build, and you dyed your hair blonde as well.

K: Yeah.

R: So you now manifested your ‘desire’ in reality from your experience as a child is linking your desire to an animation/cartoon, see how it’s played out?

K: Yeah.

R: How you created it.

K: Yeah.

R: Ok - so let’s again get back to your Holographic Imagery of this woman. Now what’s interesting is in animation/ in cartoons that children see or watch, the cartoon animations are also ‘Perfect’, you’ve got the female all ‘perfectly drawn’ or animated as you had described the ‘Perfect Female’ within your mind.

And from there, you created or manifested the ‘belief’ that ‘that is what a woman should and must be’, because that’s what you were ‘introduced’- to both within your education as a child so to speak through the movies that you’re watching and also then you’ve got your magazines, you’ve got your media and all those ‘flashing images’ of the perfect woman or feminine, that only compounded your Holographic Picture of and as the ‘Perfect Woman’, but there is no way that you can Physically Practically ‘compete’ with an Animation.

K: Right.

R: It’s Not Real, the ‘Physical’ is Real.

K: Yeah.

R: Okay, now understand that doesn’t take-out or remove the experiences that one has, because I mean it’s… in terms of the whole Female Manifested Picture that’s been presented, have a look, it’s always only a Picture in Picture-form - both within cinema, television, magazines - but look it’s Only Pictures. If you see them in ‘Actual Reality’ it’s a complete different Picture that you see, the Real Actual Physical.

Now these are merely words I’m sharing with you but, in terms of for yourself you have to come to that Realization, that it is Physically Impossible for me to Compete with a Picture.

K: Yeah.

R: Simply from the fact that the picture isn’t real and I’m here with me in my physical body, this is what I am and how I am now this is real. And in terms of realizing that point and making peace with yourself in who and what you are right here at this moment you’ve got a platform in terms of starting to actually have access to yourself as who you really are.

Why do I say that, because if all this still exists within you, the point of competition, comparison with other females constantly comparing yourself judging yourself, bringing up jealousy and god knows what, it creates a whole system inside you.

Then you have to walk a process, I mean you’ve gotta get rid of that system first, then you only get to a point of yourself meaning the actual you behind it all wherein you start reaching a point of acceptance, self-acceptance, actual real self-acceptance.

From there you start living the process of self-transformation where you live that realization in this reality; where there’s no more, excuse me, competition or comparison within yourself, because you’ve accepted you actually, really.

So you’ve lived your life since that point in terms of trying to manifest you as this woman.

You see the impossibility of it? How you’ll cycle over and over and over again trying to become this perfect woman because in essence that’s what you’re trying or attempting to do. Like almost taking, seeing if you can take parts of other women for yourself to assist and support yourself in your redesigning yourself as this woman.

And I can guarantee there’s many women out there, not all, has this female picture god in their head that’s constantly causing or manifesting that point of comparison.

K: So what you were saying though, was like if you’ve already built up this system of jealousy and competition, that this point has to be stopped first before you can get to deleting this original picture.

R: Oh you can delete it, use your muscle communication.

K: Okay, cause I hadn’t even… this wasn’t even in awareness.

R: No of course not.

K: Until we’ve discussed it right now, it’s very interesting.

R: And then you start seeing the points for yourself.

K: Yeah.

R: And you take it back to the original source, remember you designed your life when you were a child. Most of the stuff that you’re experiencing now, trace it back to childhood where and how you programmed it. That’s why we’re here talking to you so we can show you the points you can’t see. Like for example that you would never have considered your experience towards Sleeping Beauty for example manifested this experience of females at the moment.

So this female picture is in the way of you being equal with other females for example.

K: Yeah, definitely.

R: And also an equal with you within where you are within your physical body and which caused an inner fighting.

K: I mean I see that because there’s always a point where I’ll get dissatisfied with myself and then immediately think that I can change something about me, one of these points to be more like this. So I’ll try to think of ways to do that or like “what can I do, what can I possibly do right now to just you know, make myself more thin or dye my hair blonde or you know, something”. Yeah that’s very interesting.

R: Or you do your nails, or clothes or things like that - that would take you a step closer to being a perfect female.

K: Clothes is a big point, because its always like I go with the idea of buying particular clothes to make myself look a certain way that I have in my mind, and then it never plans out to be that.

R: Oh, you, you, you, you… you have an idea in your mind of how you would look like in those clothes, and then you go and buy it and try it on…

K: And then it’s like I convince myself that these clothes look good on me but they never satisfy this point.

R: Oh, okay.

K: But like you said, this points not real so how could it possibly satisfy that point. Very cool.

R: The point that you want to satisfy isn’t even real in the first place.

Resonance Interview: Weight - Women's Resonant Nightmare - Anna

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:57:16 +0100

Anna's Resonance Discussion

17 February 2010

Resonances: Alright. This is Anna’s Resonances, sitting here with Anna and today’s topic of discussion, is in relation to and with regards to ‘Weight’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay, the weight we’re communicating about or discussing, is specifically ‘physical body-weight’ within the context of just ‘physical body-weight’ in itself, and also ‘picking up weight’ and the dynamics and points that’s involved within that whole experience within ‘physical body-weight’ and also ‘picking up weight’.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay, let’s start first with the word itself and having a look at
The Symbolism that is Existent within the word ‘Weight’ within the Resonance, in which the word ‘Weight’ Exist as ‘physical body-weight’, okay?

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay? So the Resonance of the word ‘Weight’, that we’re looking at, at the moment contains that of ‘physical weight’, okay?

Now – if we have a look: ‘Weight’ which is spelled W, E, I, G, H, T – okay?

So let’s first look at the ‘straight forward’ Symbolism of each letter:

We have the W (w) – alright?
Now, the W represents the Female – in relation to Symbolism. If you have a look at the word or letter W itself, it is representing the female in relation to the breasts, okay?
Formation of two breasts next to each other, exactly as it exist in the female human physical body, alright?

Then we’ve got the letter E (e) – which represents Energy, so symbolism for and of Energy.

Then we’ve got the letter I (i) – which is, the Symbolism representation thereof is: Personality. The ‘I of Consciousness’. When you refer to yourself as ‘I’. That ‘I’, that ‘Self’ that is defined within and of and as the Mind-Consciousness-System.

Okay, we’ve got the G (g), which is the Symbolism for and of Ego.

Anna: Okay...

Resonances: Okay.
H (h) – which is the Symbolism of sitting, basically literally in terms of the Symbolism of the letter itself: ‘Ass-sitting’. Okay.

Then we’ve got T (t), in terms of the Symbolic representation thereof, within and as the word ‘Weight’ – represents Choice.

Now understand, in terms of the Symbolic representation of the letters within the word ‘Weight’ specifically in relation to the Resonance in which the word ‘Weight’ exist as ‘physical body-weight’, okay?

Now, this is the one polarity-aspect of the word ‘Weight’.

Alright. Now, in terms of the ‘existent polarity-aspect’ that is the reflection of the word ‘Weight’, which exist... within the Human Physical Body, within the Mind-Consciousness-System, because the Mind-Consciousness-System is Manifested within Polarity. You’ve got your‘basic principle’; within for example ‘Male’ and ‘Female’ - yes the Female might be existent within a Female Human Physical Body, but yet there are still aspects and attributes of the Female, that is of ‘Male-essence’ – the Male maybe in a ‘male’ Physical Body, which defines him as a ‘Male’, yet there exist ‘Female’ aspects and attributes within the ‘Male’ as well. It’s just that, because the ‘Male-point’ is more dominant or the ‘Female-point’ is more dominant, the ‘Female’ within the Male will be suppressed and the ‘Male’ within the Female will be suppressed. Okay, so now the Polarity-Aspect within the word ‘Weight’ – we Manifest basic reflection of the word ‘Weight’.

Now, we’ve got the other point, which is:

The W transforms into an M (m) – okay. Which is the representation of: ‘Male’. Why? It’s within the ‘protruding’ chest-area, the usual men in the olden days, use to walk ‘proudly’ with their chests, quite ‘protruding outwards’ - ‘stamina’, ‘male stamina’. Okay, there you have that point in the male body.

We, the word or letter E (e), reflecting forms a 6, which is a System-Code. Numericals are System-Codes, that you...

Anna: Miracles!?

Resonances: Numericals.

Anna: Numericals...

Resonances: Numbers.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: ...are System-Codes within the Mind-Consciousness-System. Okay.

I (i) transforms into an exclamation mark (!), which within the Symbolism thereof, in relation to the word ‘Weight’, the Resonance we’re looking at, at the moment means ‘Intensity’ or ‘Warning’, okay?

Then we’ve got G (g), which transforms into a backwards 6, which is a System-Code, representing past. Okay? If you have a look at the ‘normal’ numerical 6, in terms of it’s Resonant Design, it manifests ‘future’ - Programming. 6 turned backwards represents ‘past Programming’. Okay.

Then we’ve got the H (h), which... almost transforms Directly into a.... backwards y. Here it forms a linear line, vertical line with a cup-formation right next to it, moving from left to right. You’ve got a vertical line with like a, cup right at the top. This is the ‘I’– Mind-Manifestation of Self in the Physical. Meaning the vertical line represents the ‘I’, ‘Self’ - how Self Stand. The cup represent the Mind, wherein ‘Self’ Exist. It’s the only ‘part’, ‘manifestation’ within which ‘Self’ Exist, as ‘Self’ always remain ‘Here’, but in the ‘Now’ of the Mind. Make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay, then we’ve got the T (t), which forms... the letter f. Now ‘f’ in terms of the Symbolic represented Manifestation of this, is the ‘Crucifixion of Self’, which is the linear vertical line and the horizontal line crossing each other, which is the Symbolism of Jesus Christ Crucifixion, and then with the vertical line, moving in an up-side-down cup, going up, down and then making a small turn, that is the... ‘Creation-Point’ from past to future, wherein your past create the future in… within that ‘creation of the past’, creating or manifesting the future, you’re stuck in the middle, within the ‘Crucifixion-Point’ of yourself, because you’re constantly existing within your own past and your own future, never Here, Equal and One – your past and your future determine ‘Who you are’ and, because of that, you’re in the ‘Crossroads’, between past and future. Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay. Now –
Now, with that information, in relation to the Symbolism, numerical Programming Design of the word ‘Weight’ in relation to ‘physical body-weight’ – let’s have a look at your personal experience within how you ‘personified’ the word ‘Weight’ as and within ‘Who you are’ within the Mind-Consciousness-System.

Okay .

Now – what we have discussed, or what has been discussed quite often, in terms of giving perspective of how Beings are actually Living out their parents’ Mind-Consciousness-Systems, their parents’ lives in essence, wherein the parents’ Mind-Consciousness-Systems are transferred into the child.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay.
Now, with children being born with the physical uncomfortability of ‘physical bodily weight’, with which you’re currently experiencing... if you experienced, you’ve been physically, in terms of your experience of ‘physical body-weight’ as you are – since you were a child.

Anna: You mean the ‘experience’ or actually been over-weight?

Resonances: Yeah, but I wouldn’t say – remember it’s not in terms of‘overweight’ or ‘underweight’, or…

Anna: Just ‘Weight’?

Resonances: Just ‘Weight’, yes.

Anna: Yeah, Well I... as a child when I see pictures of myself, I don’t see ‘Weight’, but I felt ‘Heavy’, like the feeling of being ‘Heavy’.

Resonances: ‘Heavy’ – there we go, okay that’s an important word.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Resonances: ‘Heavy’, alright – now with... and then from there on as you grew older and came of age, your physical form manifested as that ‘Heaviness’, basically. Is that so?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Okay - now in relation to that point – that ‘Heaviness’ that you experienced, that was the ‘excess’ ‘Manifested Emotional and Feeling ‘pockets’’ of your parents...

Anna: Okay...

Resonances... that downloaded into you through the Mind-Consciousness-System transfer into and as your Physical. Remember, in terms of the transfer from parents to children, the parents entire Mind-Consciousness-System-Design transfer into the children.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: That means that whatever Excess Manifested Emotions and Feelings that had not been dealt with, but had been suppressed, transfer into the child.

Anna: Only the suppressed?

Resonances: Everything.

Anna: Okay.
The Conscious Emotions and Feelings, which is the whole ‘platform-System-Manifestation’ of the Conscious Mind, in which they participated actively, would transfer, so everything that they participated within actively would transfer. Everything that they participated with ‘in-actively’, meaning that had an effect on them, but which they suppressed, would also transfer. Now, understand these or such Excess Emotions and Feelings, would Manifest as literal ‘Pockets’ inside the Human Physical Body, and these ‘Pockets’ would form a total ‘Network-Platform’ in the Human Physical Body – Okay?

So all the un-dealt with Emotions and Feelings and situations and experiences that your parents had through-out their life, would also transfer to you - It’s kind of like the Mind-Consciousness-System not being able to deal with or fathom those experiences, so now it’s kind of like transferring it to another new Mind-Consciousness-System to say: “You sort it out, I cant!”.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Does that make sense?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: So, all of that within your parents transferred into you and physically manifested into your Human Physical Body-Form liquidly, okay? So those excess suppressed emotions and feelings manifested a ‘pocket-network’ within their physical bodies, as a System transferred into your physical form within which your physical form manifested all those excess experiences/events/situations, which contain the Resonance of Energy.

Anna: Yeah...

Resonances: Okay?

So it transferred to you as Energy, wherein which you and thus why you experienced yourself as ‘Heavy’, I mean when you were a kid you, in essence were carrying your parents ‘burdens’, okay?

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: And then it is those ‘undealt-with’ events/experiences and situations that your parents had, that was in their physical, in their physical form as a System-network liquefied into your physical form, that shaped your physical form into the ‘Heaviness’ and as ‘Heaviness’ in physicality as what you experiences it right now.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: And it is those excess suppressed, in essence ‘unwanted’ experiences, that has been unconsciously forming/shaping/creating/manifesting your life in events and things like that – your whole life-experience.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: about why your physical in essence from when you were a child, manifested the experience of ‘Heaviness’ and thus the form of ‘Heaviness’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay.

So that’s the platform, meaning the form that describes the form, the, the... in relation to the experience of the ‘Heaviness’, which is your parents burdens in manifested liquefied into your form, because it liquefied into your form, your form shaped according to the Heaviness and not according to you as a Being.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: That’s why, in terms of, in essence the physical forms that Beings have currently, within this World, is not the Real, true Physical Expression of the Beings Self. It is the form that were shaped according to ‘Who’ their parents were, and the amount of excess, suppressed emotions and feelings, the parents transferred as a System, inside the child and according to that amount of transfer, how the Physical would form, according to that ‘liquidfication’, wherein the form would merge with the ‘liquidfication’ of the emotions and feelings as the excessed suppressed events/situations/feelings/emotions and... you know, it’s a lot, okay?

So your form was in essence dependent on your parents and thus the form would shape according to the, the amount of ‘burdens’ of the parents, and therefore no Beings form in Reality is according to the Being, as ‘Who the Really Are’, or according to the Beings Resonance, it’s according to System transfer, the intensity of the Resonance of that System-transfer.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so now we’ve explained the form and how the experience of ‘Heaviness’ manifest as an Actual Physical Heaviness.
Alright.

So the ‘form-situation’ in terms of the Beings physical form, shapes at birth, within how we have explained it just now.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Clear sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, now let’s look at how you have ‘personified’ yourself, in relation to the word ‘Weight’. What does that mean? How you have defined yourself as ‘who you are’ in relation to the word ‘Weight’, within how we have, in the beginning explained each individual letter, within it’s obvious polarity-point and then the hidden Polarity-point?

Anna: (points to the drawing) is this the hidden one?

Resonances: Yeah, the hidden one

Anna: The second one

Resonances: yeah, which is the projection. The opposite. Cause remember: The Mind works in opposites.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: So, when working with a Point, you have to work with the obvious Point and the hidden Points – the two Polarity Points to be sure you are Actually Diffusing the Total System, okay?
So – let’s start with the obvious Polarity-Point, which is the straight-forward word ‘Weight’ at each individual letter, as you see it:

Okay, let’s start with W = Female and Being in a Female Human Body. Okay. So if you now have a look at your Life-Experience Anna, you... because of the experiences you’ve had within your Life and within your home-situation, during your growing-up years, where you’re still dependent on your parents, in terms of education and a roof over your head, wherein that self-Independency of going into the System, is not yet manifested: A idea was created within you, of the female being ‘Weak’.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay... That you’re experience of femininity...

Anna: (Laughs)

Resonances: Why the laugh?

Anna: Cause it’s just, it’s so obvious, when you look at it... (laughs).

Resonances: Yeah, it’s not obvious though, when you’re living it.

Anna : No.

Resonances: But when you’re outside ‘the box’, as ‘the box’ so to speak, in terms of where we’re standing and we show it to you, you’ll be able to see it, cause then we’re showing you, as who you are outside ‘the box’, yet as ‘the box’, so you get a view of yourself that you hadn’t considered, yet is Here.

Okay. So ‘femininity’ : In terms of the world, femininity has been defined according to body shape, the clothes you wear, hair, accessories for hair, body accessories, what lotion, shampoo’s , mascaras, make-up. Hair dyes... but if you have a look at all those things: Put them together, plaster them on a Being, the Being kind of shapes themselves according to all those things, kind of fit themselves into a ‘profile’ they ‘paint’, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Then it becomes a System-Manifestation, when a Being manifest themselves as a System-Representation of the definition of ‘femininity’ according to what society has defined it as.
Alright. But in looking at femininity as an Expression, we’re looking at ‘Grace’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’, ‘Gentleness’, alright?

But have a look: in terms of ... I’m speaking now, how you have put, in your Mind-Consciousness-System defined femininity, as that previous picture of society that I’ve painted for you, that’s existent. The Expression of Actual femininity , is Living these Words; at ‘Grace’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’, ‘Gentleness’, however let’s look at ‘Grace’ for example. How have you defined ‘Grace’, in terms of the picture, the picturesque societal definition thereof? A long, tall, lean, well-build women that walks in high healed shoes, that are very thin, almost silky dress, with silk, with hair flowing down and that picture, you’ve defined as ‘Grace’, alright?

Anna: Hm.

Resonances: ‘Vulnerability’ –
‘Vulnerability’... this point is actually non-existent within you at the moment at all. You’ve completely locked Vulnerability away, because Vulnerability you’ve placed into Direct definition of ‘Weak’ – and manifested a Polarity for and of Vulnerability in relation to the, the definition you give Vulnerability is ‘Weak’ , you’ve locked yourself down – so now you’re on lock-down.

Anna: What I’ve experienced is that I... seeking, like in my lock-down or whatever, seeking my ‘Vulnerability’, through being weak and then it backfires or it... because that’s not what it is, or it...
Resonances: That’s how you’ve reasoned it within your Mind.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: In essence Vulnerability doesn’t exist inside you at all – meaning you wont even go there, in any way whatsoever, because if you Allow yourself to be Vulnerable, you Allow yourself to be ‘Weak’ and you’ll Fight yourself, your world, to ensure that you’re not Weak. You don’t want to be defined as a ‘Female’, in the feminine definition in which a ‘female’ is contained, in relation to the definition thereof, in society.

Vulnerability – you at the moment, have it as Abuse within yourself, memories...

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: there is memories of yourself as a child, in which you were Abused in Physical, Emotional events and experiences, because if, if you look at a child: a child is Vulnerable. What does Vulnerable mean? It means an Expression of ‘Here-ness’ that’s Open...

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Now there’s no fear. It’s an Unconditional ‘Here’ and would experience the Moment in it’s Completeness, but then while you were in those Moments of experience, Abuse would come in the way, which created Fear. That Fear created you to Now, be Conscious of your environment within the Starting-Point of Fear, wherein you would always Expect Abuse to come your way. From that Moment, Vulnerability became un-existent, cause you went into complete Self-Lockdown in relation to Expression in Vulnerability, because of the Fear – and within That, you were always in constant look-out to ensure that you’re ready for when Abuse comes your way. Therefore you defined Vulnerability as being ‘Weak’ - and since then, because you’ve built so much layers around that point of ensuring that you don’t become, or are Vulnerable, it’s become non-existent within your total Physical Expression-Design within yourself.

So, it’s like you’re always expecting the worst... to happen, and I mean, it’s a huge thing, this point, because now you can take it further into, you’ll not Allow yourself to just Enjoy yourself, just Relax, just ‘Be’, Accept yourself, your environment and Trust yourself to know that if a situation come, I Trust me to Direct it Effectively, in the Moment – but instead, you’re on constant look-out for Abuse, to protect yourself against Abuse... be prepared. And in that whole manifestation, you’ve created a Resonance of Fear, in your whole Physical Body and that Resonance of Fear, is Resonating and compounding, every time you think, there could be a point of Abuse coming your way, that this Resonance build another layer, and another layer and another layer and another layer, okay?
When those building of layers happen in context to this point `= pick up Weight.
Because you’re building...

Anna: That makes sense.

Resonances: ...You’re building a protective wear inside yourself. Okay? So now you have to look at, in terms of when you pick up more Weight, when you become more uncomfortable within your Physical Body, meaning where the experience of ‘Heaviness’ becomes more, within and without, you have to look at your world, and see why are you within a constant Resonant fear of Abuse?
Okay, you have to look at what thoughts are coming up? Is this specifically related to people, meaning where you wanna protect yourself from people, make sure... now, what I mean by Abuse is for example not wanting people to think bad of you. Not wanting people to have ideas, perceptions or beliefs of you – so what you do within that Fear, you’ll change yourself and your Physical behaviour, the way you live, the way you act towards them. In that you’re living that Resonant Fear in you, compounding it even more and then... pick up more Weight. Make sense?

So if you look at for example your relationship with Matti, your experience with Matti...
It’s okay, you can cry...

Anna: (Laughs)

Resonances: Your experience with Matti – that’s where you started picking up Weight.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances:... while you were in that relationship.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay – now at what stage, now you clearly have to look at: At what stage did you start changing in Physical behaviour and actions towards him and in your voice tonality, where it became more high pitched, where in you started becoming fearful of him... leaving you? Or being interested in someone else, rather than you? Was it thoughts that went on from the beginning?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Ah, Okay.

Anna: Even be... yeah

Resonances: Even before? You played the Relationship out in your head, before it started?

Anna: Yes. No not played it... No. Well, it’s almost like it’s not even, I mean, cause it’s the pattern I followed, so I was already on that track, with another boyfriend and then he comes and I’m just still on the track, basically. I mean, then I would leave the track when I don’t have a boyfriend, or would experience this differently and then I would do the same, as soon as I go into a relationship again.
Resonances: Meaning the Fear of them leaving you or leaving you for another woman?
Anna: The fear of Abuse, this whole thing, pick up Weight and then lose Weight, when I left the man yeah...

Resonances: Oh, so this happened many times before, every time you go into an agreement/relationship, you pick up Weight...

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Okay – So you understand how you’re picking up Weight within a relationship at the moment, because you’re Resonantly Living and Compounding the Fear of Abuse, which in your eyes would be Self... the experience of Abuse, in relation to the experience of Abusing you from the perspective of: You’re going to experience sadness, regret, shame, feeling left out, feeling less than... I mean, all of those experiences.

Anna: Which I’m already doing to myself.

Resonances: Yes, but in essence you’re doing it to yourself, but see you’ve defined it according to the male, within which you are in relationship, to you. That they’ll be the cause for your experiencing Self-Judgment, inferiority, being less than, you know going into that whole Self-Pity cycle in essence.

Anna: Yeah, yeah.

Resonances: Okay...

So now you’ve gotta look at, from that perspective – from that perspective, you’ve gotta source the point of why you immediately go into Fear, when you go into a relationship, meaning why that point of Fear of Abuse comes up, wherein you Live that Fear over and over and over again and with that Fear Resonantly Existing within you, you’re picking up Weight.

Anna: Well, I experience it with all people. More with males and even more in relationships. So it’s not only there (in relationships) and I see specifically the point of these words in terms of ‘Graceful’, ‘Vulnerability’, ‘Intimacy’ and ‘Gentleness’, I’ve placed them in the relationship, like that is where they should exist or...

Resonances: No, what about you being them in Self-Expression?

Anna: Yes, what about that?

Resonances: Be careful of that point, in terms of wanting to construct your relationship or Agreement, by constructing a relationship and Agreement as a ‘thing’ that you’re ‘entering into’, that you have to ‘create’ – that’s relationship-talk. Agreement is two Beings, walking in Self-Honesty, Assisting and Supporting themselves individually and within that, Assisting and Supporting each other.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: That’s it. In that, you Walk, as Grace, as Vulnerability, as Intimacy, as Gentleness where it because Self-Expression.

And not try and shape/create or manifest something, as a Separate part, or a Separate thing or a Separate entity, because that Separate part, thing and entity, will control and determine Who you are, which is a problem... then it must Fall.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Because it wasn’t Real.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: The Reality of an Agreement or experience, is dependent on the Participants, and ‘Who’ the Participants are, within ‘Who’ they are.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so... let’s look at the dynamics of the point of Fear firstly: You experience Fear towards people in general

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Okay.
You experience Fear towards males, more than the people in general, I mean woman, okay?

Anna: Yes, yeah.

Resonances: Then you experience even more fear, when in a relationship.

Anna : yeah.

Resonances: Okay – so you’ve got your face 1 Fear, your face 2 Fear and your face 3 fear.
Face 1 Fear is towards women, face 2 Fear is towards males, face 3 Fear is towards and within relationships, okay.

So – let’s have a look at the first two in your ordinary world, not being in a relationship within anyone:

The Fear in relation to woman, you’re looking at your mother-construct, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: in relation to comparison and Self-Judgment.

Males: You’re looking at your father. But not in terms of prominently, it’s more unconsciously.

Anna: It must be, cause I’ve never known him.

Resonances: Yeah, no it’s unconsciously, yeah, it’s not... That’s why it’s not prominent, it’s more unconscious.

Anna: I also have an i..., I mean, I’ve been seeing this point, it’s very prominent in my experiences, but I have had difficulty seeing, where it comes from.

Resonances: Yeah – no it’s from your father, unconsciously.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Now, to identify that point because you’ve never known your father, is to write out the Fears, individually

Anna: Fear of males.

Resonances: mmm, Yeah detailed. I mean, you’ve gotta look at their physical forms. You’ve gotta look at the way they talk to you. You’ve gotta look at, but not... from them, you’ve gotta look at your experience within that, within when, you’ve gotta look at the experience of you, when a male come and talks to you, the experience of you when a male stands in a certain way, the experience of you when a males voice is in a certain tonality. In that, you’ll start seeing your fathers unconscious Design, by getting out those attributes of all those individual males, you’ll be able to in essence see, the personality of and as your father, that you never knew – from a Mind-Consciousness-System perspective.

Does that make sense?

Anna: Okay, yeah.

Resonances: so that you can from there, stop all those points. Okay? Then you’ve got your Fear, your 3. Face Fear – that is now your face 1 Fear and your face 2 Fear that combined, in a relationship experience, because now your world is no more on the outside – your world is now more introverted, into the focus thereof only being on the relationships, therefore you channel all your Fears into the Relationships.

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Therefore it becomes even more extensive.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: Okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: and therefore you’ll pick up Weight very quickly, when you’re in a relationship or Agreement, because you’re compounding all of those Fears, channelling them into this One experience, It’s not dispersed, okay?

And in terms of you’re, your Physical-Form-Weight experience at the moment, you’re keeping it in that form, because of this Fear, that you’re existing in and you’re Living in, all the time, based on this event that took place as a child, now I’m talking from you only. This is the ‘You’ that is Participating, within the experience of the manifestation of your form at the moment, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Remember, we’ve discussed before how your form has become what and as it is, since you were a child, okay?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: that’s the ‘Physical-Form-Aspect’ – Now, we’re looking at how you’re participating in maintaining this the ‘Physical-Form-Aspect’, does that make sense?

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Alright, so this whole Fear-Point is consistent with, when you were a child, with the Vulnerability Point, when always existing in Fear, in relation to Abuse.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay – now the Abuse, specifically is your definition, wherein you Fear someone ‘making you feel’ Judgment, Inferiority, less-than and all those type of things.

Anna: Okay, yeah...

Resonances: So you’re still thinking or believing that others are the Source or Cause for the way you’re experiencing Yourself, within how you’ve defined You throughout your life, which is inferior. Judgmental, less-than... you know, all those shitty experience and you don’t want to particularly have those experience, but they’re existent In you, and those experiences, you’re having over and over again to show you what you’re Accepting and Allowing of Yourself.
So in essence, beings showing you what you’re Creating, Manifesting, Participating in, within yourself.

Okay?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: So – let’s stop there for now. We’ll continue these interviews, which will probably be quite a few, but I’d say this would be quite a lot of information for now.
I suggest listening to all the points again.

Anna: Yeah

Resonances: Maybe go through it individually, as I suggested, point by point, so you kind of listen to the interview, see all the individual points that was mentioned. See if you can go deeper into them, okay?

Anna: Yeah, okay.

Resonances: Okay, so we’ve got those two points and we’ve only discussed the W female, feminine part of it all. We haven’t yet completely gotten into all the words in relation to feminitiy. We’ve discussed Grace and Vulnerability now. Then we’ve still gotta do Intimacy and Gentleness.

Anna: Okay.

Resonances: in how this personification of you as the word ‘Weight’, is manifesting your Physical experience as it is now, both in form-wise and Life-wise.

Anna: Yeah.

Resonances: Okay?

Anna: Yes.

Resonances: Cool.

Anna: Thanks.

Resonances: No problem.

Interviews from the Farm 69: Participation in Reality is never an Observation

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:54:23 +0100

Bernard, Andrew & Andrea

16 February 2010

Bernard: So what is the Decision?

Andrew: Well, ehm the point that we are looking at is the decision that I have to make for myself, which is a decision that I’ve never ever made which is actually Standing for something.

Bernard: So the ‘Decision’ = ‘What are you going to Participate in’- Because up to now you’ve only been an ‘Observer’, and to an extent you have then ‘Participated’ in your ‘Observations’ which was then Never ‘Real’ because, your ‘Observation’ is an Illusion, ‘Participating’ in the ‘Observation’ is an ‘attempt’ to make the Observation ‘Real’ - which can never be-

Andrew: your mean your observation is the thoughts.

Bernard: ‘Observation’ is ‘Everything that you ‘Believe’’-which includes Thoughts, includes all your Memories, all of the things you have given ‘Structural Design’ to, as a Definition of ‘your world’, is an ‘Observation’ because it is ‘Exclusively’-‘You’ and it ‘Excludes’ Everyone-else. So therefore it’s just an ‘Observation’, it’s Not a ‘Reality’, because ‘Reality’ includes ‘Everyone’ isn’t it? – that’s undeniable.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Up to now you’ve only ‘Participated’ in your ‘Observation’, which means your whole Existence has been Not-‘Real’ - which is when you ‘Die’ what happens? You Die as an ‘Observation’- ‘Equal and One’ you become what? ‘Observably’: Nothing, because nothing ‘You did’ was ever ‘Real’.

Andrew: Ok.

Bernard: So your ‘Decision’ is simplistically whether you’re going to Participate ‘for Real’ -which means you have to ‘Include’ in your Reality ‘Everyone-else’, because that’s ‘Real’, they all ‘Exist’.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Or are you going to ‘Only’ Participate in your ‘Observation’ which is ‘Self-Interest’ - which means you’re going to pay the ‘Interest’ for-that -which is like your ‘Money System’. I mean, have a look: ‘Interest’ eats-up Reality. That’s basically the ‘Decision’ Everybody is gonna make I mean, this ‘Decision’ is Exactly ‘the Same’ for Every-Single-Being in Existence.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: First of-all, you must Obviously be ‘Aware’ that, if you look in your ‘Observation’: You’re Not ‘Aware’ of ‘Everyone’.

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: That’s a ‘Problem’, so therefore you can’t have an ‘Opinion’ or even any form of ‘Knowledge’ you can ‘Trust’ because, I mean: You’re Not ‘Aware’ of Anyone-else –You’re only ‘Aware’ of Your ‘Observable’ ‘Experience’ - and ‘that’ is Not-even ‘Real’ because that was ‘Pre-Programmed’ so that you have a ‘Functional-Way’ -of ‘Identifying’ with your ‘Observation’ within a form-of ‘Informational Knowledge’, which you then call ‘You’ - which means: the whole ‘You’ is Not-‘Real’.

Does that make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: How do one then ‘Birth Yourself’ to be ‘Real’ as a ‘Real-Participant’ in Existence? What is the ‘Equality’ we are talking-about? We’re Not talking-about ‘Observation’- We’re Simply ‘Disregarding’ ‘Observation’, we’re talking-about ‘Real’ ‘Participation’ where ‘All’ is ‘Part’-of a ‘Single’ Solution =that’s ‘Oneness’ and ‘Equality’. The ‘Quality’ of-that ‘Participation’ for All is that ‘Everyone’ is got ‘Best’ for All –which means that’s ‘Quality’ of ‘Equality’.

That Obviously if one do the ‘Math’ for-that would mean that the ‘Only’-place where Everyone will have proper ‘Quality’ in ‘Equality’ is: where Everyone is ‘Participating’ As-‘Equals’ – within-‘that’ you cannot-be ‘Equal’ as long as you’re an ‘Observer’, because as an ‘Observer’= You’re Not-‘Real’ - as a ‘Participant’= You are Not-‘Skilled’, so you’re going to have- to Learn ‘How to Participate’. You’re-Not just going-to start Participating and suddenly ‘Know- it- all’ – What is ‘Real’ in ‘Reality’ -that’s gonna be a ‘Process’ – which is the ‘Process’ we talk-about - Does that make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: That’s ‘Desteni’ in a ‘nutshell’.
So- to ‘try’ and-‘find’ a ‘Reason’ to Make a ‘Decision’ is already an ‘Observation’= it’s already Not-‘Real’. It’s ‘Impossible’ thus to ‘Find the Reason’. A ‘Decision’ is Not-’Reason’ - A ‘Decision’ is an ‘Understanding’-of the ‘Context’-of ‘What is ‘Reality’’ and ‘What is ‘Illusion’’ – and that I’ve just Explained.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: Then the ‘Context’-of obviously ‘Where’ you ‘Place’-yourself within-that, is Simply a ‘Self-Honest’ ‘Decision’- You can either ‘Do’-it or You Can’t. Understand that ‘Reality’ ‘Supports’-you through ‘that’ of-you what is ‘Real’-which is Not Your-‘Thinking’, it is Not Your-‘Observation’ – it is Your-‘Physical’ within-which and ‘with’-which you have No-‘Communication’ currently -The ‘Only’ Communication you can have it currently, have ‘with’ Your Physical’ currently is ‘Pain’. It is a ‘Signal’-‘System’ that ‘Indicate’ to you – ‘Pain’ or ‘Discomfort’ that ‘Indicates’ to you: you have to look at-your ‘Participation’. And that ‘Pain’ is Not-something You ‘Observe’= it’s Fucking-‘Real’. The ‘Discomfort’ is Not-‘Something’ You ‘Observe’ = it ‘Overpowers’-you.

The ‘Resonance’ isn’t ‘Something’-that ‘You Observe’ = it ‘Happens’ to-you – It is ‘Real’.
What you are then ‘Experiencing’ is something you can’t ‘Direct’ because: it’s got ‘Power’ ‘over’-you – that’s ‘Real’. That’s why we use ‘that’-which is ‘Real’ to ‘Assist’ Everyone-with. Then obviously ‘How’ do you ‘Suppress’-it? You ‘Observe’-it, you make a ‘Value’-Judgment about-it and in-that, you ‘cycle’-it, so that you end-up in ‘Observer’-mode again and then, Never-take ‘Action’, so now it gets ‘worse’ – every ‘cycle’. This is been going-on for ‘Millions’ of-years.

So- back to ‘what’? The ‘Decision’ - I mean have a-look at the Fascinating thing: the World ‘Exist’ as ‘Systems’, ‘Systems’ that ‘Manage’ the ‘Interaction’-of People. That ‘Systems’ is ‘Real’– they are having an ‘Effect’ ‘On’-you and they have ‘Power’ ‘Over’-you = They are ‘Real’ because, you have to ‘Act’ ‘according’-to them in ‘Participation’- it’s Not an ‘Observation’. You Have No-‘Choice’ in-that.
The Question then is ‘Is these ‘Systems’- or ‘Are these ‘Systems’ that ‘Exist’ in this World ‘Managing’ the Relationships between the ‘Living Beings’ on this Planet, are they ‘Managing’ the ‘Relationships’ between People in-a ‘way’ that is ‘Equal for All’ and ‘Best for All’ – they are Not.

Andrea: No.

Bernard: So, Our ‘Participation’ is then in these ‘Systems’ to ‘Change’-them to ‘Equality’ and ‘Oneness’. ‘That’ you Cannot-‘Do’ as an ‘Observation’ or Using ‘Knowledge’ or, anything-else but: Having to ‘Actually’ ‘Participate’ in-them.

‘Desteni Farm’ is simply the Place where we ‘Train’ ‘Participants’ to go-back into the ‘System’ and to Start taking ‘Directive Principle’ of-them and bring some ‘Common Sense’ to ‘Reality’, so that what we end-up-with at this stage – over a very-long period of time – we end-up in a ‘Reality’ where Children can be ‘Born’-into and be ‘taken care’-of – that’s just one simple-point.

Now One must Decide whether One want to ‘Participate’ in something like that. The ‘Context’ of-that obviously is ‘Where’ and ‘How’. Within-that you have to Obviously look-at your ‘Effectiveness’ and ‘Potential’ as ‘Participant’ –‘How far’ are you going to-go? ‘How far are you ‘Willing’ to-go?’ – Which is ‘Self-Willed’ in getting this ‘Reality’ ‘sorted’-out.

What is the ‘Point’ of ‘Agreement ‘within-that? Only ‘one thing’: the Human have a ‘Peculiar’ ‘Condition’ that is ‘Real’: The Human requires Sex ‘Regularly’- the ‘Agreement’ is there to ‘Satisfy’ that Particular ‘Real-Reality’ without going-into a ‘Delusional’-point ‘about’-it - so that one can get ‘down’-to the other shit, which there is ‘many’-of that we have-to ‘Participate’-in and ‘Sorting’-out this ‘Reality’.

So, within-that one simply ‘place’-you in an ‘Agreement’ where you Focus-on getting the ‘Sex’-part ‘Sufficiently’ ‘Effective’ so-that you do Not have-to go-into ‘Observation’-Mode to ‘search’ for another ‘Point’ where you Believe you could have-it ‘Better’. As long as that ‘Observation’ Exist = Your ‘Agreement’ is Not-‘Real’- It’s that simple. Within-that, the ‘Agreement’ between Beings are to be ‘Self- Honest’ and State either ‘it works’ - that means ‘I am Satisfied’ or ‘I’m Not-Satisfied’ - and if one can’t get to ‘Satisfaction’, then simply the ‘Agreement’ should Not-‘Exist’. And just on that one ‘point’ all ‘Agreements’ will be ‘Managed’- Nothing-else is ‘Relevant’, because that one single-‘point’ will either ‘cause’-you to go-into ‘Observation’-Mode to ‘look’-for another ‘alternative’ or you’ll be ‘Satisfied’ - which means you can Focus on the shit you have to do, ‘Practically’, ‘Common-Sensically’ - Make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: And therefore the ‘Decision’ becomes ‘Simplistic’. Many ‘Agreements’ will start and Not ‘Last’ because, once ‘Self-Honesty’ is ‘reached’, I mean the ‘Decision’ will either become: ‘Yes, We Walk’/ ‘No, We Don’t-Walk.’ If that doesn’t ‘Self-Honesty’ doesn’t come-through= the ‘Agreement’ will go into ‘War’, because there will be: ‘War’, a fighting-about ‘Dominance’.

What would be the ‘Point’? The ‘Point’s simplistically ‘attempting’-to ‘Change’ the ‘Physical’ - You can’t ‘Change the Physical’= You’ve already ‘Created’-it.

You have to now ‘Trust’ that the ‘Physical’ know what the fuck it’s doing, because why would-it have ‘Allowed’-you to come Here and apparently ‘fuck with Reality’ through ‘Observation’- Did you really ‘fuck with Reality’ or are you ‘Fucked’? You didn’t really ‘fuck with Reality’, you are ‘Really’ ‘Fucked’ in-‘Reality’. ‘Reality’ is much ‘more’ than what can-be ‘Observed’- and ‘Reality’ has got just Certain.... Obvious ‘Principles’. Those ‘Principles’ are: you want to be ‘Part’-of ‘Reality’ = You must ‘Realize’ ‘All’ the ‘Parts’ of ‘Reality’ in ‘Self-Honesty’ and, if you would like the ‘Ability’ to be-able to ‘Observe’ while you ‘Participate’, then your ‘Observation’ should Not-be in-‘Conflict’ with your ‘Participation’ – that means: ‘Equality’. And that ‘Equality’ should Include ‘Principally’ ‘All of Existence’- Not-just your ‘Observable’ Current ‘Reality’. And the ‘Principle’ is Very-‘Simple’ that: ‘Everywhere is Here’ - that means, ‘Who you are Here’ within your ‘Apparent’ ‘Limited-Reality’, determines ‘Who you are’ in ‘All-Parts’-of Existence in ‘All’ your ‘Participation’. Therefore, if you are Not-‘Consistent’ in Every-‘Here’ ‘Considering’ ‘All-Parts’ of ‘Reality’ = You can’t be ‘Trusted’ and therefore, will Not be ‘Allowed’ to Return-to ‘Reality’, you will remain in ‘Delusion’. Make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: Now the most ‘difficult’-thing is simply ‘The Decision’ – because that ‘Decision’ requires ‘Self-Honesty’ - and what is fascinating is-that, if one look-at your ‘Existence’-as something that is ‘broken-down’ into ‘Time’ and you take this ‘Time’ into the ‘Practical-Participation’ ‘Part’ of-it - which is Breath – then your ‘Existence’ consist out-of a certain amount of ‘Breaths’ and this ‘Breath’ of-you as-‘Real’ as you ‘Participate’, you want to be ‘Consistence’ so that you can ‘Trust’ Yourself and Focus-on what it is you’re Here to ‘Do’ and to Develop your ‘Skills’ ‘Sufficiently’ so that you can really ‘bring-forth’ a ‘System’ of ‘Equality for All’.

If you find these ‘Breaths’ Not-‘Consistent’, ‘Practical’ and you are ‘Influenced’ by your ‘Observation’, obviously there are tools like ‘Self-Forgiveness’, like ‘Self-Honesty’ and ‘Common Sense’ and obviously ‘Support’ from others to come and ‘Release’-yourself from your ‘Delusion’ and get-back to ‘Reality’, which is ‘Participating’-Here. Within this ‘Context’, Each-One is ‘Alone’, no one can in any-way ‘Decide’ for you what your ‘Participation’ must-‘be’ because, at the end of the day the ‘Design’-of ‘Reality’ is in such a way to give All the ‘Delusionists’ each an ‘Equal’-Opportunity to ‘Redeem’-themselves through ‘Participation’ - and they must do-that ‘Alone’ without help – otherwise they can Never Be ‘Real’.

Does that make sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Really ‘Simplistic’. I mean, that is now the Total-Evolution over ‘how long’ – that we find ourselves here ‘Attempting’ to-‘Make Observation Real’. Now what is ‘Fascinating’ about-this is How has our ‘History’ Developed? Our ‘History’ is ‘Developed’-by those that is Here, ‘Observing’ then ‘Participating’ in the ‘Observation’, ‘Pretending’ in ‘Making-it ‘Real’ - you know, it’s like going to ‘War’- it’s an ‘Observation - then you ‘Participate’ in Your ‘Observation’, you make ‘War’, many ‘Die’, you come back and it ‘Disappears’ in-the ‘Annals of History’ - Was it ‘Real’?

Andrea: No.

Bernard: No, it wasn’t. You ‘Participated’-in ‘Observation’, you ‘Attempted’-to ‘Make-it ‘Real’’ but it wasn’t ‘lasting’ - same with ‘Agreements’: you ‘Observe’-something, you ‘Like’-something, but when you ‘Participate’ there is something that doesn’t want-to ’work’. Now, you either are Able to ‘Adjust’-yourself or you’re Not – It’s really ‘simplistic’-stuff.

You cannot make ‘Observation’ ‘Real’, it is ‘Impossible’ because, your ‘Observation’ will ‘Always’-be ‘Only’-about ‘Your Own Fear’ and ‘Your Own Self-Interest’. It ‘Never’ Considers ‘Everyone’ and you are ‘Always’ in a ‘Level of Scales’, that means: you are ‘Always’ either ‘Higher’ or ‘Lower’-than ‘someone’ according-to your ‘Observation’. I mean the ‘Participant’ doesn’t have a ‘Higher’ or a ‘Lower’ because, the ‘Participant’ in ‘Equality’ ‘Has-Everything’- There is No-‘Higher’ or ‘Lower’, there is Only-Obviously the ‘Point’ that: if you are Not ‘Yet’ ‘Everything’, you better ‘get your ass-there’ –

That makes sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya

Bernard: Really ‘Simplistic’.
So- Our ‘History’ that is taught to our children, are ‘Attempted’-‘Observations’ that were in ‘Self-Interest’- in ‘Self-Interest’ been ‘Attempted’-to make ‘Real’ and which is being ‘Controlled’-by a ‘Delusional’-‘System’ based on ‘Debt’ - because by Apparently ‘Observing’ Everyone to-‘Have’ some ‘flaw’, you’re Allowed to ‘Apparently’ ‘Place’-yourself in a ‘System’ where you can be ‘Better’ or ‘Worse’ and within-that, you are ‘Apparently’ ‘Evolving’ - There is No ‘Evolution’ taking-place.
There is Simply either ‘Delusion’ or ‘Reality’. Those that ‘Die’ within ‘Observation-Mode’ are rather ‘Diminished’. You cannot ‘Debate’ ‘Reality’ – ‘Reality’ Includes-‘Everything’ so there’s No-‘Debate’. ‘Observation’ obviously can be ‘Debated’ because you are ‘trying’-to ‘win’ and ‘trying’-to ‘Impress upon-others’ your ‘Observation’ as ‘More’-‘Real’ and ‘More’-‘True’ than somebody else’s - That is Not-‘True’ or ‘Truth’ or ‘Real’, or ‘Reality’ –simply ‘Madness’.

So, what is ‘Really’ the ‘Point’ of the ‘Decision’- like in this particular case-? It’s either you can ‘Walk’ within the ‘Principle’ of ‘Participation’ to find-‘ways’ to bring-about a ‘Change’ in the ‘System’ from ‘Delusion’ to ‘Reality which is ‘Best for All’. Within-that you are ‘Unequal’ as ‘Participants’ because you have ‘Different’ ‘Levels’-of ‘Experiences’ in ‘Different’-‘Fields’ and that will take-‘time’ to ‘Correct’.

Furthermore, you are within the ‘Context’-of Your-‘Past’ and the ‘Potential’ of Your-‘Future’ – both of-that will ‘play a role’ depending-on whether you have given your ‘Observations’ ‘Value’ or Not.

Then there is Obviously the ‘Common Sense’ ‘Part’-of ‘Where’ one will be Most-‘Effective’ and, if you would to be ‘Satisfied’-with Your Own ‘Participation’ if you do Not ‘reach’ your ‘Optimum’ ‘Participation’- ‘Potential’- ‘Practically’. Within-that obviously your ‘Decision’ is ‘much’-more ‘Difficult’ than ‘her Decision’ because, Remaining ‘Here’ you’re going-to have-to ‘Accept’ Certain ‘Limitations’.

‘Returning’ you will have much-more a ‘Responsibility’. You must ‘Decide’ whether you can ‘live’ with which-one you can Live ‘Practically’ - You have ‘No Say’ in-that, because...

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: ...Nothing ‘you say’ can ‘Change’- the ‘Resonance’ will simply ‘take-over’.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: That’s ‘Simplistically’ the story.

Andrew: Ok.

Bernard: Make Sense?

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: Within-that you have to ‘Act’ because: the longer you-‘wait’, the ‘longer’ it-‘takes’

Andrew: Ya.

Bernard: and the more your ‘Experiences’-of ‘Discomfort’ will ‘Escalate’ and take-you to a ‘Point’ where-you Eventually will ‘Act’ in ‘Anger’, ‘Destroying your Reality’ where you then Have-to ‘move’-on, you see that’s why ‘Anger’-Exist. ‘Anger’ is the ‘Tool’ that make-sure you ‘move’-on when you don’t ‘want’-to - does that make sense?

Therefore ‘Anger’ is Valid - It’s a ‘Real’ ‘Actual’ Experience.

Andrea: Ya.

Bernard: It makes-sure you ‘move’-on if you are Not-‘Effective’. If you are ‘Effective’ = You are ‘Satisfied with Yourself’, you will Never get ‘Angry’.

Make sense?

Andrew/Andrea: Ya.

Interviews from the Farm 68: Past Time-Line Resonant Correction

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:28:46 +0100

Bernard Poolman, Matti & Esteni
13 February 2010

Remember - in the Discussion with ‘the Creation of Existence’, ‘Time’… the ‘End’ was ‘Placed’ at the Beginning, what does that mean? Everything was ‘Programmed’ into-‘Time’. That means, from a Perspective of ‘Multidimensionality’, you’re ‘Experiencing’ ‘In a Way’, you were Always Experiencing ‘Everything’, All-‘Time-Lines’, ‘All’ at-the ‘Same-Time’, but you were ‘Only’ ‘Aware’-of the ‘Point’ where you are Here. So what did we do? We ‘Brought’ ‘All of-that’-‘Here’, so that ‘Everything’ is ‘Here’ - All you have-to do is You have-to ‘Realize’-it, and ‘Bring’-it ‘Here’ and you ‘Access’-it ‘Direct’.

So if we go ‘back’-to your Experiences when you were very-young in terms of ‘Relationships’, those ‘Experiences’ were Not-‘Defined’ by‘ Vocabulary’ or ‘Words’, they were ‘Defined’-by your Actions’ - I mean, did you ‘Communicate’?, did you ‘Run-Away’?

Matti: Yeah, I didn’t have the ‘Words’ ‘then’

Bernard: Yes, but later-on, you would have ‘Defined’ your ‘Relationships’ with ‘Words’ but they would’ve been ‘Influenced’ by the ‘Actions’…

Matti: by the others ex…

Bernard: when you were younger. Therefore you have to ‘Bring’ your ‘First’-‘Aware’-‘Experiences’ in ‘Relationship’ to ‘People’ ‘Here’, and ‘Look’ at-it again, ‘Re-define’, ‘Give-it a-Name’ for What you ‘Really’ ‘Experienced’…

Matti: Because otherwise I’m just ‘Observing’ the ‘Past-Experience’ defining-it through my, how I’ve ‘Currently’ ‘Defined’ those words.

Bernard: Correct, you’re Not ‘Dealing’ with-it. You have become… You have to Become a ‘Real-Time’ ‘Participant’ in-that ‘Experience’ again, ‘Re-define’-it Now –that’s ‘Quantum-Time’ -‘Bring-it-Here’, You ‘Walk’-it-again, you are ‘that-Being’ again, that ‘You’ that was ‘Defined’ at that ‘Time’. I mean if you look-at your ‘later’ ‘Experiences’ in terms-of ‘Relationships’ and ‘People’ and so-on, That’s already-‘Influenced’ by your ‘First Actions’ when you were a child, so you cannot ‘Trust’ your ‘Observation’ of-that, You have-to ‘Re-Participate’ in ‘Everything’ - so that you can ‘Re-define’ everything to the ‘Point’ of getting to ‘What is the ‘Point’ Within – say ‘Agreement’, Within-‘People’, Within-‘Discussion’, Within-Communication’, ‘Within-Gentleness - What is the ‘Point’ ‘there’ which you have ‘Left-in-Time’ within ‘Memory’ as Your ‘Experiences’ which has become ‘Symbolically’-‘You’, which is ‘Resonantly’-‘You’, which is ‘Dominating’ your ‘Current’ ‘Attempt’-to ‘Deal’ with-it –and now you can’t ‘Deal’ with-it because the ‘Resonance’ Takes-‘Over’ because it Still ‘Acts’ on-your ‘Instruction’, Your ‘First’-‘Action’, Your ‘First’-‘Imprint’, Your ‘First’-‘Impression’.

Matti: So it doesn’t matter what ‘Statement’ I make, ‘Directive Statement’ I make, because I’m making that through an Observation…

Bernard: It will not – if the ‘Statement’ does not change the ‘Condition’… if the ‘Statement’ does not ‘Change’ the ‘Condition’= You have to ‘go back’ and ‘Re-Experience’ - otherwise you’re going-to ‘Time-Loop’ until you get- to the ‘Point’ where you are ‘Dealing’ with the ‘Experience’ so that you have a ‘Real-Time’, ‘Directive-Principle’ ‘Re-Alignment’.

Matti: It’s the same Principle as calling Green ‘Green’ instead-of what it actually is.

Bernard: Correct, I mean you’re ‘Dealing’-with your ‘Base’ ‘First-Impression’ of ‘Reality’, which is ‘Why’ – What is the ‘Two-things’ within the ‘Process’ of ‘Structural Resonance Alignment’ that we have to First ‘Re-Align’? It is ‘Family’, and it is ‘Relationships’ –that means, Not-as you understand ‘Relationships’ in ‘Love’ and so-on - ‘All your Interaction’ with ‘All-People’ during your ‘Life’ – ‘How did you Act?’, ‘What did you ‘Think’?’, ‘What did you ‘Say’?’, ‘What did you ‘Do’?’, ‘Who’ were ‘You’? And ‘all-of-that’, you have to ‘Re-Align’ ‘all-of-that’ into ‘Equality and Oneness’ – Make sense?

Matti: So the ‘Re-Alignment’ …

Bernard: Is ‘Realigning’-it to ‘Equality and Oneness’ - You are ‘Correcting’ ‘Your Past’ - In ‘Correcting Your Past’, you are ‘Changing Your Future’.

Matti: Through not doing-it through ‘Making an Observation’ through my Current Definitions but to Actually ‘go-back’ to the Actual…

Bernard: You’re Not-‘going-back’, You are ‘Bringing’-it ‘Here’.

Matti: Or ‘See’ the…

Bernard: It’s ‘Here’ You ‘Re-Experience’-it, You ‘Re-Align’-it – it’s the ‘Same’ thing you can do with a ‘Dream’: You move-into the ‘Dream’, the ‘Dream’ is ‘Here’, You-‘Move’ ‘Yourself’ in relationship-to ‘All Events’, till you have ‘Equality’ and ‘Oneness’ Established, You ‘Integrate’-that ‘As You’ and say ‘This is Who I am’ Now, in-that ‘Event’, that ‘Event’ will No-Longer have-‘Power’ ‘Over-Me’, I am Now ‘This’ –Does that Makes Sense?

Matti: Uh, yeah it Makes Sense from the Perspective that, in looking-‘back’ at-it it’s still…

Bernard: ‘Observation’.

Matti: …‘Acknowledging’-it as an ‘Influential’ ‘Experience’…

Bernard: Correct, instead of a ‘Directive’…

Matti: Instead of actually ‘Correcting’ or ‘Re-Aligning’ Myself ‘As’-that…

Bernard: Correct.

Matti: ‘Experience’ as ‘Who I was’ ‘In that Moment’.

Bernard: As the ‘Participant’, As the ‘Participant’. You’re Still ‘Participating’ in-it, Have-a ‘Look’: You’re ‘Really’, You are Just ‘Repeating’ the ‘Same-Pattern’, so you’re Still ‘Participating’ In-that ‘Pattern’, You Establish the Pattern again - You ‘Bring’ that Pattern ‘Here’, You ‘Re-Align’ the ‘Pattern’, You ‘Correct’-Yourself and now ‘You Walk’. Make Sense? And so you ‘Identify’…

Matti: In ‘Theory’ it Makes Sense.

Bernard: Yes, Obviously – I mean, this is gonna-take ‘Practice’ from the Perspective: ‘till you ‘Get-it’’.

Matti: Yeah.

Esteni: In terms-of the ‘Mind-Constructs’ the only ‘Point’ that we are-at Now, is the ‘Point’-of ‘Bringing’ those ‘Experiences’ ‘Here’ and ‘Walking-through-them’ ‘As’ the ‘Participant’ – that’s the ‘Point’ that we’re-at – we haven’t gotten to the ‘Re-Alignment’ yet, that comes as soon as we go to the ‘Self-Corrective Statements’.

Bernard: Yes, now Hear - What am I ‘Dealing’-with? or What am I ‘Placing’-‘Here’ so that One ‘Understand’ the ‘Basic’ -‘Point’ of the… the ‘Equation’ which is the ‘Pattern’ you are ‘Repeating’, which is the ‘Game-Theory’, because that’s the ‘Game’ You ‘Played’-‘then’, that’s the ‘Game’ You’re Still ‘Playing’-‘Now’, then we Take the ‘Quantum-Theory’ which says that ‘All Things are Existent Right-Here-Now’ and We Make-it ‘Real’ ‘Participate’ in-it ‘Right-Now’, and ‘Bring-it-Back’ - You ‘Re-Align’-it - which is ‘Quantum-Theory’, which is ‘Actual’ ‘Quantum-Application’ –and All of-that is ‘Self-Realization’ – Does that Make Sense?

Because You are Now ‘Correcting’ ‘Your Life’ from the Beginning, and in ‘Correcting’-it you’re also ‘Correcting the Outflow’ so that you can Look at the ‘Future’ and see: ‘Is there Any of-these ‘Patterns’ ‘Recurring’?’ By ‘Bringing- the -Future’- ‘Here’, looking-at ‘Everything’ you can be this Life and ‘Check’, ‘What am I going to-be in ‘this Condition’/‘this Situation’?’

Matti: That’s the whole ’Scenario’ point.

Bernard: And you can ‘test’ ‘Everything’-out ‘Before’-you ‘get-to-it’, ‘As’ a ‘Participant’. Not as a ‘Observer’.

Matti: Yeah

Bernard: And I mean, ‘that’ gives-you Fuckin ‘Confidence’ and ‘Trust’ – Make Sense?

Matti: That Makes Sense, yeah.

Bernard: It’s Really ‘Cool’-shit.

Matti: Well basically my ‘Action’ ‘then’ determined the ‘Rules’ I’m currently living by, in ‘The Game’.

Bernard: Correct, the Pattern – the ‘Rules’, the ‘Pattern’, the ‘Rules’, the ‘Pattern’. Then, and I mean, that Happened when you were a Child before you had ‘Vocabulary’ –so therefore it is ‘Existent’ within-you as an ‘Energetic’- ‘Action’, it’s an ‘Energy’- ‘Symbol’ that is ‘Integrated’ ‘As’-You and you’re just ‘Repeating’ the ‘same-thing’.

Matti: And ‘the way’ I’m ‘living the words’ that I’m now using to define that ‘Past Experience’… Bernard: still Influenced by ‘that’.

Matti :…is Influenced-‘by’ that Experience.

Bernard: Yes, I mean that you have already-‘Proven’ in your latest ‘Experiences’, because you’ve Not been able to ‘Direct’ those Experiences, I mean ‘Why’ was that ‘Necessary’? People Do Not want-to ‘Realize’ or ‘Conceive’-that the ‘Resonance’ or the ‘Pattern’ is that ‘Powerful’.

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: That means you have ‘Abdicated’ your ‘Total’ ‘Directive-Principle’ to-‘Patterning’, to ‘Equations’, to an ‘Energy-Force’ that takes-you-‘Over’ - it ‘Directs’-you. And Now you have ‘Defined’ some ‘Energies’ ‘You Like’ –because ‘they’re nice’, and some you ‘Don’t-Like’ – you try and ‘Avoid’ the ones you ‘Don’t-Like’, you try and ‘Hang’-on to the ones ‘You Like’, which then ‘Isolate’-you more and more from ‘All of Creation’ and Cause-you Not to ‘See’ what’s going-on. Make Sense?

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: That is ‘How’ Separation gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger – which is where we are Taking ‘Everything’, to the ‘Point’ where the Person will ‘Stop’ and say: ‘Fuck, what’s going on?’ ‘Why can’t I ‘Stop’ My Experience from always ‘fucking-out?’ When you get-to that ‘Point’ and You are ‘Willing’ to Consider ‘Self-Honesty’, ‘Self-Forgiveness’ and the Fact that you can ‘Actually’ ‘Do something about-it’ = then you’ll Start-to ‘Walk the Path’. You First-Start-with Your ‘Current’ ‘Scenario’ so you can just ‘See’ that ‘Self-Forgiveness’ ‘Works’, you’ve gotta become quite-‘Effective’ in that, before you get-to the ‘Quantum Theory’, and the ‘Quantum’ ‘Re-Direct… ‘Re-Alignment’. Because if you are Not-‘Well-Prepared’ = You Can’t ‘Do’-that ‘Effectively’, it’ll still be ‘Influenced’ - but you’ve done a-lot of ‘Homework’ now; now it’ll become easier and easier – until, by the-time we get-to ‘Quantum Theory’ for Everyone, You’ll do your ‘Re-Alignment’ ‘Effectively’ –otherwise you go and do your ‘Re-Alignment’ from a Perspective still of ‘Ego’, I mean You really Fuck Yourself.

Matti: Yeah it’s from a… Starting-Point of ‘fix’ trying-to ‘fix something’ instead of actually…

Bernard: And that is not, You’re Not-‘Fixing’-it, You are…’Standing’ ‘As-it’ and: it No-Longer ‘Exists’. It’s Not a ‘Fix’, it’s a Fuckin ‘Stop’ ‘Completely’ Your ‘Past’.

Matti: Yeah that’s why it never works if… as ‘fixing’.

Bernard: So we, you ‘Stop Reality’ in ‘All ways’ - Bam! And You Walk, ‘Re-Aligned’- ‘Structural-Resonance’ ‘Re-Alignment’. Now all you need is: to ‘Identify’ all the Points that’s ‘Fucking’-with-you, ‘that’ you do in ‘Real-Time’ as You ‘Walk’ –something happens, ‘Agreements’, whatever – Find the ‘Point’, ‘Re-Align’, ‘Re-Align’, ‘Re-Align’ - That ‘Re-Alignment’ takes-you on average 7 years or more.

Matti: Cause that’s the first 7 years of... Life. Bernard: That’s your First fuckin’ 7 years. Matti: So all the ‘Primary’ ‘Patterns’ Basically…

Bernard: I mean the ‘Patterns’ that ‘Show’ in your Life ‘Currently’ are mostly ‘Justifiable’-‘Patterns’ –that means you have, ‘Mutated them’ ‘Over-Time’ to ‘Suit’-you within a Particular ‘Personality-Alignment’ ‘Construct’ which you are ‘Comfortable’-with, in ‘Presenting’-Yourself ‘In this World’ as ‘This is Who I am’, but that ‘Who you are’ ‘Presenting’-Yourself to-‘be’ is ‘Limited’ in Every-Way Conceivable, because it has an ‘Energetic’-‘Resonance’ that is ‘Good’ and ‘Bad’ - you know, it is just ‘Wave-lengths’, ‘Vibrations’, where you are trying-to ‘Deal’-with ‘Reality’ in a Very-Limited ‘Construct’ –

Matti: I see that Point of the ‘Persona’ built around-it, I mean I’m ‘Seeing’ that and yet Experiencing… ‘ but that’s the only’….

Bernard: Okay. Now, that’s where you’re ‘Dealing’ with the ‘Mind-Construct’ Now. Now, that ‘Construct’ is ‘Designed’ ‘Over-Time’, so now you have to ‘Align’ All your ‘Time-Lines’ till you have ‘All your Time-Lines’ ‘Here’ – You can’t do that ‘Quantumly’ = You have to then ‘one-by-one’, because you’re Simply Not-‘Sufficiently’ ‘Effective’ with the ‘Movement’ of All the ‘Vocabulary’ and ‘All’ the ‘Relationships’ within-it to ‘Do’-it in a ‘Way’ that is ‘Trust-Worthy’. You have to ‘make-sure’ when you have ‘Aligned’-it, it is ‘Effectively-Done’ - you Miss ‘One-Point’ = You’re going-to ‘Time-Loop’ and it’s gonna ‘Influence’ Everything-else you do from then – therefore You Do-it ‘Properly’ the ‘First-time’, you…you do the ‘Allotted-Time’ because: That’s the ‘Time’ it ‘took’-you to get ‘Fucked’.

Matti: and leaving the ‘Time-Line’ ‘as-it- is’ is basically like where, it’s basically Accepting-Myself to Exist in a ‘Point of Time’. Bernard: Correct.

Matti: ‘With the ‘Past’ as an ‘Unchangeable Influence’. Bernard: Yes, which is Not ‘Who You are’.

Matti: instead of bringing the ‘Time-Line’ ‘Here’ and Realizing: It’s Not-about ‘Time’.

Bernard: You ‘Bring-it-Here’, and you, Until Everything is ‘Here’, Now you ‘Live’- ‘Here’ – Now you have No ‘Past’, you have No ‘Future’ – You Are ‘Here’. Matti: It’s Not about a ‘Time-Line’ then, it’s about ‘Who I am’. Bernard: Yes, it’s just ‘Living’-‘Here’ ‘As-Breath’.

Matti: yeah. Bernard: Got-it? Simplistic?

Matti: Yeah.

Bernard: But it is ‘Hard’-‘work’ meaning: You have to Do-it for Yourself - says: ‘I’m Now ‘Setting-Myself-Free’ from this Shit’. Makes Sense? Good. Do you like it?

Esteni: Yes

Interviews from the farm 67: Game Theory of the Gods ont he Road to Freedom

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:18:05 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman
12-Feb-10

Okay, so – ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ is the ‘Next Series’ that we’ll be Starting - Video uploads in ten days-time.

What is ‘Game Theory of the Gods’? That is the ‘Mathematical-Equations’ within-which Everyone’s ‘Life’ and ‘Consciousness’ in itself has been ‘Designed’, so that you can have an ‘Experience’ within-which you are ‘Believing’-yourself to ‘have’ some form-of ‘Free Will’.

Now, this ‘Free Will’ - as Many is already Starting to ‘Realize’- is obviously Not ‘Free’ at all.

What will the ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ ‘Assist’-you with? It’ll ‘Assist’-you with ‘Understanding’ ‘Creation’ In-‘Fact’ - because after- all what...as we said at Desteni, it’s about: the ‘Equality of All’ – which means: You have to ‘Equally’-‘Understand’ ‘How’ Everything ‘Actually’ ‘Operates’ – And you’ve gotta be able to ‘work-it-out’ for Yourself, therefore You ‘Require’ a ‘Sufficient’ ‘Understanding’-of ‘The Game Theory of the Gods’, so that Nobody can ‘Mind-Control’-You, Nobody can ‘Influence’-you, Nobody can make-you ‘Experience’-something, unless you can ‘Actually’ ‘Do’ the ‘Mathematics’-Yourself and ‘See’ for Yourself that What the Person is talking about, You can also Understand ‘Equally’ by doing the ‘Mathematics’-Yourself.

This is obviously gonna take-‘Time’ because, there’s gonna be ‘Hundreds ‘-of Interviews Explaining Every-‘Point’ ‘Meticulously’ in terms-of the ‘Base Theory’ of ‘How’ the ‘Equation’‘Operates’ that ‘brings’-that ‘Particular’-Point ‘Equally’ into ‘Visible’, ‘Experienceable’, ‘Creation’ ‘Here’ Within this ‘System’ of ‘Consciousness’ on Earth.

So I Suggest: Prepare Yourself, Subscribe - Understand that, the ‘Applied’ ‘Game Theory of the Gods’ we’ll be doing with ‘Facilitation’ in the SRA Courses –in the ‘Structural Resonance Alignment Training’- in about a year/year and a half’s time.

That part of the Curriculum will start –you can call-it Virtually ‘The Curriculum of the Gods’ because, what is ‘Required’ to be ‘Understood’ when you are ‘Dealing’-with ‘Creation’, is Obviously ‘All Parts’-of ‘Everything that Exist’ Needs to be ‘Understood’ – Not ‘As’ the ‘Observer’ but ‘As’ the ‘Participant’ –and the ‘Way’ it ‘Operates’ as ‘Within’ and ‘As’ the ‘Participant’, is it ‘Works’-in ‘Real-Time’ ‘Math’, it is an ‘Instant’‘Calculation’ that is Made by Your ‘Resonance’, which is ‘Really’ ‘Representing’ ‘You’-You are Just a ‘Slave’-of these ‘Symbolisms’ that is the ‘Symbols’-of ‘Mathematics’ within an ‘Equation’ of ‘Variables’.

In this, you will then come-to the ‘Conclusion’-yourself , ‘Eventually’ that ‘What is Best for All’ is ‘Equality’ –is an ‘Equation’ which ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Freedom’ within the ‘Context’ of the Current ‘Limitation’ - that ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Responsibility’, and that ‘Gives’-Everyone ‘Equality’ in ‘Understanding’, and ‘Sufficient’ ‘Skills’ to ‘Deal’ with-it – Obviously this will take a Moment –which is ‘a couple of years’ –for it to-be ‘Filtered’-through ‘All of the World’.

We Estimate at-least ‘3 Generations’ if we Work at-it at a ‘Global Level’ – So, It’ll ‘take a while’- But, the ‘Longer ‘we Wait = the ‘Longer’ it’ll ‘Take’.

So - if you’re Ready-for ‘Really’ ‘Making a Difference’ in Your ‘Own Life’ and on Earth, and in ‘What’ll ‘Happen’ to-You in the ‘Afterlife’’, Get- to-Know: ‘Game Theory of the Gods’.

See you Around.

Interviews from the farm 66: When is Silence Real

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:14:09 +0100

By: Bernard Poolman

21 January 2010

So on the ‘Nature of Silence’ and the How it has been Misunderstood-
When you are Experiencing Silence within you, like in Meditation or you Experience a point of Stability, where you Extremely Focused on a Particular point, Observe the Following:
In your ‘Silence’, if only your Inner-World Exist, or the point that you are Focusing on –
That’s Not Real Silence -
That is a Resonance Silence, that means for a moment, the Resonance is giving you the Idea that what you are Experiencing is Silence.
In Fact, it’s simply Trapping you so that you Miss the Point that the Whole World around you is Gone away and you’re in a ‘Special place’ of Silence.
This is specially practiced in Meditation.
if you go into this state of Silence in Meditation and the ‘Noise’ of the World Disappears - You are somewhere in an Alternate Reality of your Own Making,
you are not even Actually Making the whole thing, you’re just Stepping ‘into it’, a ‘Room’ that’s been Prepared for you, so that you can feel ‘Godly’ and ‘Divine’ in your Silence and you Miss Reality Completely.
Silence is: where you are Flowing with Reality in All the Sounds of it that is Existing Here, and You are Not Interfering with that with your Mind - so your Thoughts, Your Being and Your Interaction with it, is in ‘Harmony’ and there is No Contradiction, Conflict, Judgment, Fear and all the various Emotions, you are Flowing as One with it.
That is Silence.
Because you’re Not Interfering with Reality, you are Moving As Reality.
But if You are in Any Projected ‘Place’, ‘Room’, ‘Space’ that Isolate you from Reality Here, that is Not Silence- that’s Isolation.

Interviews from the farm 65: Wisdom of the Observer with Mythomania

info@desteni.co.za — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:08:41 +0100

Bernard Poolman & Darryl Thomas

19 January 2010

Bernard: ok, You were saying?

Darryl: Ah that was so weird - so we just have like this fishbowl around our heads that we take as …

Bernard: If you look at the Context of the Universe, the Earth will look like a Fishbowl
Isn’t it?
It’ll be like, from far-off this… watery place, with a few points of Entertainment in it called ‘Land’
Isn’t it?
And, you are bubbling along within it, gasping for air.

Anna: trying to look out

Bernard: Yes, and you are Eating, you are Shitting and you are, have a Functional System that Breathes for you, because You don’t Breathe.
You are attempting to Observe what is ‘Real’.
I mean, what are you Observing? How can you Trust your Observation if you cannot even Observe the System that is Currently Existent that is Not Equal Support for all Life?
And you’re Unable to See that and you are Unable to Observe ‘What to do about it’ - that means you’re completely Disempowered as the Observer.
Yet, from the perspective of your Science the Observer seemingly is the one that is the Creator, it is Not-
the Observer is only the Creator of Consciousness - that’s the ‘Con’ within which your Conscience is warped to Not Actually Care, then you Dare to give Definitions to Words like ‘Love’ and Align Yourself to your Definition and Defend your Definition of ‘Love’, Generating within yourself an Energy that Feels according to Your Observation - like ‘love’- and then you Act within that.
But all of that is Illusion - it is Not ‘Reality’, which is what Death Proves because-
If you were Able to Actually Converse with the Dead, you will at any given moment be able to Converse with All Dead Beings - whether Animal, Plant, Stone, Molecule, Human - All of them at Once, Immediately.
I mean, Obviously
If you can’t do that and you have a ‘Select Few’ you Communicate with, You Must Realize that you have Created the ‘Select few’ as your Particular Delusion
And obviously they will Speak words of ‘Wisdom’ because the ‘Wisdom’ they Speak is the Wisdom you Believe you Have, and they’re just Confirming your Observable ‘Wiseness’
Because in your ‘Wiseness’ you are Answering the question ‘Why’ to your Satisfaction.
The Fact that that Whole Process is a Lie, is Irrelevant.

Darryl: Well it's not considered, I mean, the whole epic sweep of philosophy is, you know, Plato’s perspectives, Socrates perspective… and people think: ‘Wow! that was Awesome - We must be thinking along in the same line’

Bernard: yeah, here basically as ‘Observer’, Creating your own ‘Myths’ it’s- you can call it ‘Mythomania’
You are Living ‘Your Myth’ as the ‘Observations of You’ without even Considering that Everything you’re Observing has got Nothing to do with Reality, it’s only gotta do with ‘Your Reality’, and ‘Your Reality’ ‘Observably’ is the Result of your Observation.
And is only Possible to Exist as long as You Exist in this Particular Form - when this Particular Form ‘Fails you’, then the question becks:

Who are You?, What will Remain?
It’s like a Motor Car- the Moment it runs out of fuel and the tires are gone and you park it under the tree, the Earth will ‘Eat’ it away till there is nothing left.
And what would have Happened to the Life of the car? It is Gone, No More.
And as the Memory Disappear, so does the car - That is the Same with the Human being.

Darryl: Oh yeah, lost Languages, lost Civilizations,

Bernard: All of it is Proving beyond the Shadow of a Doubt that the Human has Not Considered Reality at all -
And that again is Confirmed through a Simple point where One can Look at Reality as you Remove the Human and,
all Knowledge will Disappear, all Wisdom will Disappear, all Civilization will Disappear, all Technology will Disappear - that would mean that the Human is the Actual Creator of these Things and that shows very clearly that there is No God that Exist, whatsoever
And God do Not Determine Anything that Happens on Earth – it is All Human
That’s a simple Math point - I mean, you do the math and You can See for Yourself that:

God Does Not Exist.